Game Day 2011 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs WCE

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs WCE

Williams - was he our 1st rd draft pick a few seasons ago?
Dont think that choice has payed dividends.

Ah the old game of drafting in hindisght... it's a lovely game to play, but of no value whatsoever.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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We're pretty limited as to what we can do on both fronts.
I don't think there are any internal candidates who are seen as future coaches so there's not much point sacking Eade in season.
Our depth just isn't strong enough, especially considering the injuries we have to make a bunch of wholesale changes to the team.

I'm not saying changes don't need to happen, they definitely do, just that it probably will happen after round 22.

Yep, sorry, should have explained that I was referring to the end of the year too.

[The Underdog]

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Mantis doesn't mind sticking the boots in i'm sure he will be able to handle it.

It doesn't make it right.

[ReLoad]

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So, lets do like we have done every year, sit down witht he footy record and put a red line through players on our list.

Who makes for good trade bait?
Who is going to get us nothing on the trade table?
Who is a keeper?

I'm happy to offload half the team to GWS right now for a few draft picks.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

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I can't remember saying/writing this in his career - I feel I regularly defend him when discussing footy with my family - but what was with Tom Williams today?

That last handball to Griffen was one of the dumbest things I've seen done on a footy field. He went to ground easily, couldn't stick tackles...it was just awful.

You know what I bet you he comes out next week and gets the Job done on Franklin, It will give us all hope again and then we will be let down in the coming weeks....sound familiar

[comrade]

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Basically that was the year I wanted us to cut deeper into the list knowing that compromised drafts were heading our way and allowing for our commitments to Wallis and Libertore a couple of seasons later.

We took Cordy as a 4 or 5 year development player with no real expectations before then. If we had taken Port's Jackson Trengove instead of Cordy for example we would have had that 2nd part time ruckman that's quite fashionable now and had someone to pinch hit as a tall defender or forward.

Had we known that the AFL were to radically change the rules of the game within 3 years we may have taken a different tact.

I agree that we should have cut deeper that year but not necessarily for other ruckman.

[Chicago1]

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If only The Rapture would have occurred as predicted, we wouldn't be in this mess now would we?

[Missing-Dog]

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Ah the old game of drafting in hindisght... it's a lovely game to play, but of no value whatsoever.

No value like Williams game today!

[GVGjr]

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So where is Mantis, what have you got to say about a top four team last year, being smashed by the wooden spooners from last year???? More defensive excuses I suppose.

Love Rocket, he has fulfilled his purpose but it is time to go. The recruitment team needs to be reviewed, we recruit Everett and the Tigers recruit Riewoldt after our pick.

The development of our players is behind every other team, they are skinny, lacking in confidence, lacking in leadership, and until supporters like Mantis stop support mediocrity, we will always be the support act for the star teams.

Not sure there is a need to make this personal. Some of the questions and points you have raised are very valid but it runs the risk of coming across as sour grapes with the references to another contributor.

Whilst Mantis is a strong supporter of the coach you are drawing a long bow saying that he accepts mediocrity because of it.

[Evel]

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Terrible game to watch. I won't start ranting on who to sack or who to delist, like everyone else feeling pretty emotional about the biggest loss I've seen since round 2 1996 (shivers down spine).

While I want to remain objective, one thing that craps the hell out of me and I lose all sense of reason is when I see opposition players laughing and smiling about how easy it is. Kerr in the 2nd qtr, LeCras in the last, in was party time and we were the buffet. Even go back to Sidebottom in the Collingwood game, but at least we came back (albeit briefly). Even if you're losing, make them earn it!! I hate the team being shamed in such a way.

[LostDoggy]

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Last week Eade said to them to go out and play the way you like to play, attacking and with flair, change things up from the gameplan we've been trying to implement.

It looks lto a casual observer ike this week, now that Eade believes the players had go their mojo back, they've attempted to go back to the original game plan.

The players are either unwilling or unable to do it, or the plan is not tactically sound.

Our effort/energy for the contest was deplorable. The worst I've seen since 07 when we lost everygame by 70 points in the back end of the season

What causes a club to play so poorly and lose by 120 points? Game plan mean nothing when all effort and spirit is gone 5 min into the first Q. My sense is something is rotting inside the club and the smell is begining to get really bad.

[Sedat]

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I would love to see some real heat turned on the Club right now.

You'll be getting your wish this week.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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No value like Williams game today!

Yep, was a shocker. His season up to this point has been good I thought, and on the back of a very solid year in 2010.
Think it's a bit harsh questioning his drafting at pick 6, on the back of 1 shocker when he has shown overall good positive improvement following his bad run with injuries.

[JohnGentStand]

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I hope I dont have to listen to all the sack Eade tripe this week.
He is not resposible for that effort today. I would like to see Matty Boyd front up for that to be honest.
No coach can teach effort, pride in personal performance, or hunger for the next contest. Those are all resposibilities of the players. That is where I want to see the spotlight shine this week.
I dont like my chances ...

[comrade]

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My sense is something is rotting inside the club and the smell is begining to get really bad.

Do you have any idea what it might be? I'm interested, that's all.