Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Gilbee = 8 disposals,

Jones 5

Hill 8 (half game

Reid 8

Hall 2 (half game


You can't win a game if you can't get your hands on it.

Add to that Wood, Libba, Wallis, Howard and Lake all with only 11

[Sedat]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

We have too many lazy players and it's time that the MC sets the standard. Lake and Gilbee got a reprieve and didn't repay the faith. They need to have a spell, as does Higgins.

Lazy combined with slow is a rotten combination.

We urgently need an injection of leg speed into the team. Cooney has been savagely missed.

[Greystache]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Or when Guerra kicked a goal when we were making a little run in the last when Higgins refused to chase him.

Libba copped it a few times from Higgins..... Awesome leadership. .... I would have told him to F*** OFF!!!

You can't have blokes like that in the leadership group, the days of the one way player are gone. It seems we're one of the few teams that can't see it.

It's up to Eade and the MC to highlight this footage during the week and make a point of it. If nothing comes of it, the same players will continue to bring the same sub par work rate and we will continue to be smashed by the good teams and destroyed by the great teams.

We have too many lazy players and it's time that the MC sets the standard. Lake and Gilbee got a reprieve and didn't repay the faith. They need to have a spell, as does Higgins.

Gia is at least dangerous up forward but watching him get run down by Puopolo after having a good 15 metres on him was painful.

Eade constantly tell us the players aren't following instructions, surely this has to be one of the areas.

Knowing the result was a formality I actually focussed on set ups and players work rate which is something I'd only do at a neutral game, and it was pretty eye opening. That lack of preparedness of our high forwards to man up on running half back is disgusting. When the opposition takes a mark in space with a runner in support there's almost a foot race between our players to get to the mark first so they don't have to be the one to chase the handball reveiver, really worry pattern, shows less concern for the outcome and more just to tick their individual indicator stat. Also our midfielders can see an opposition player running into space but won't chase them until they actually get the ball, then it's a half arsed chase when it's too late- Ward and Boyd are examples of this.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Early in the year, the word coming from Bulldogs HQ was that our fitness base was being built up to peak later in the year. To my eyes, we look slow and unfit. At this rate, the second half of the season will be a write-off.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Everything's been covered so I won't elaborate, but I sincerely hope we make the right decisions going forward. That is, we develop for the future.

Hall stunted Jones' development today. I think Barry is finished, personally.

Gilbee is taking the spot of another young player. Again, Gilbee is finished.

Higgins needs a spell at Williamstown and we need to play Dollhouse.

They are the most obvious ones, but we have plenty of other concerns too.

[Sedat]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

You can't have blokes like that in the leadership group, the days of the one way player are gone. It seems we're one of the few teams that can't see it.

I've said this elsewhere previously, but if a one-way one-trick pony like Milne can successfully re-adjust his game completely so that it incorporates 100% commitment to defensive pursuits like chasing, tackling and harrassing whenever he doesn't have the ball, then anyone can.

[Greystache]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

I've said this elsewhere previously, but if a one-way one-trick pony like Milne can successfully re-adjust his game completely so that it incorporates 100% commitment to defensive pursuits like chasing, tackling and harrassing whenever he doesn't have the ball, then anyone can.

A stint in the VFL when he was still doing well offensively set the tone. Not sure we'd do the same with Higgins or Gia.

[MrMahatma]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Everything's been covered so I won't elaborate, but I sincerely hope we make the right decisions going forward. That is, we develop for the future.

Hall stunted Jones' development today. I think Barry is finished, personally.

Gilbee is taking the spot of another young player. Again, Gilbee is finished.

Higgins needs a spell at Williamstown and we need to play Dollhouse.

They are the most obvious ones, but we have plenty of other concerns too.

I Agree.

Can't see Hall being put out to pasture though. There'll be a few retirements this year, no doubt.

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

I Agree.

Can't see Hall being put out to pasture though. There'll be a few retirements this year, no doubt.

We have to be fair to Hall, the ball delivery was just pathethic to him. He has never been good at contested marking, but what do we do, kick it to him when he is surrounded by three players. He has no hope. We know his defensive pressure is no good, but he does present a target up forward and the opposition have to put their best backman on him.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

I Agree.

Can't see Hall being put out to pasture though. There'll be a few retirements this year, no doubt.

They were saying on the radio during the game that they thought Bazza was injured and was unable to run at all? Is that true, I haven't seen anyone mention this....

[Desipura]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Spot on mantis, Cross, Higgins, Gia and Boyd basically let their opposite number do what they like.

Which is why you have to move on the older guys from that group. The game is too fast for them to keep up.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

I was at a wedding yesterday and haven't watched the game. Should I save myself the trouble and not watch it?

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

I was at a wedding yesterday and haven't watched the game. Should I save myself the trouble and not watch it?

Up to you. One thing we won the second half so maybe watch a bit of the first, fast forward the second and watch the last two quarters.

[comrade]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

I was at a wedding yesterday and haven't watched the game. Should I save myself the trouble and not watch it?

It's worth it to watch how good Murphy, Griffen and Morris were. There were also positives to take out of Jones' and Howard's game.

This year is all about taking pleasure in the little things

[Mantis]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

A few observations from yesterdays game (that I haven't covered in other threads):

* Liam Jones - this kid can play, took some nice strong marks, but his positioning is horrible. So many times when we were looking for someone to present Liam was on the wrong side of the ground. He is still a baby in footy terms, but this part of his game needs some serious attention.

* Dale Morris - is a warrior, he just battles his arse for the entire game. Inspirational.

* Brian Lake - you should take a look at Dale Morris and be ashamed of yourself. Here we have a dual AA FB who at times was picking up Whitecross & Mitchell all while Morris was busting his arse on Buddy. Brian you should be on Buddy. Brian pull your head our from where it's hiding, train your butt off and get yourself fit because your team needs you. It's time to earn the big pay cheque you fought hard to receive.

* Work around the ball - Our contested play was very good yesterday, we hit in hard and won the ball well, but our spread and decision making from the contest was (is) horrible. So many times we have a numbers advantage, but rather than working our way through the congestion we kick quickly to our disadvantage. We moved the ball well at times in the 2nd half, but early on it was horrible.

Where are we at:

* We are not a great team to watch at present and we aren't very good. Our best 2 players are injured or playing injured, we have 4 or 5 'oldies' who are battling and we have 4 or 5 kids who are just finding there way. We are being held together by 4 to 6 'goers' who need to be commended on their efforts.

* Leaders - Can we try and just get the basics right. Let's man up. Let's chase. Let's set the example for our kids.

* The coach - Rocket says he loves the teaching aspect of coaching. As long no rash decisions are made over the next 13 games Rocket has this time to show that he can teach our players. We are a team going through a transition period so Rocket & the MC need to carefully pick the players who can take us forward and teach these players how to implement a game style which can be competitive against good teams. I watched with interest how Rocket interacted with players at the 1/4 & 3/4 breaks and it looked like he was in 'teaching' mode, he was animated with his movements, but he looked like he was giving solid advice on positioning and the like... it was good stuff.