Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

It is harsh, but you know what............sadly it's true

truth
— n
1. the quality of being true, genuine, actual, or factual: the truth of his statement was attested

o·pin·ion
1.
a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

Now Desipura, would you say that 1 game is sufficient or insufficient grounds?



Tony Liberatore was told he would never become an AFL player by premiership coaches ie experts.
you mean true....like that?

[Desipura]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

What's your thing against short players? Stephen Milne is one of the best small forwards in the game. Eddie Betts. The list goes on. how is he much different from any of these players?
And IMO, what a negative thing to say about a player from your own team.

There are few and far between Ryan Griffens in this world. the bulk of the AFL is made up of players of all types who, while lacking the DNA to match it with champions, work their guts out to fill a role. these are your stock standard players and clubs are built on them.
You'd have to be a pretty harsh critic to consign a player to failure on the basis of a single game.

Nothing against short players, I don't know why you would even ask such a question. Are you short?
If so, sorry I did not mean to offend.
In response to the players you mentioned,
Milne he has pace and a decent side step
Betta has pace, smarts and good evasive skills
Hooper will never resemble either of these 2, a Patrick Rose clone less the marking ability.

Dahlhaus is showing enough to suggest he can make a career. I like his thirst to lay a tackle and get involved. Reads the play well for a player just starting out.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

Nothing against short players, I don't know why you would even ask such a question. Are you short?
If so, sorry I did not mean to offend.
In response to the players you mentioned,
Milne he has pace and a decent side step
Betta has pace, smarts and good evasive skills
Hooper will never resemble either of these 2, a Patrick Rose clone less the marking ability.

Dahlhaus is showing enough to suggest he can make a career. I like his thirst to lay a tackle and get involved. Reads the play well for a player just starting out.

again, Truth V opinion. 1 game is not enough for you to say that.

[Desipura]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

again, Truth V opinion. 1 game is not enough for you to say that.

I can give my opinion based on 2 games, whether it is true, time will tell.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

I can give my opinion based on 2 games, whether it is true, time will tell.

Of course! and you're welcome to it...but you said it was "sadly true"

[Desipura]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

of course! And you're welcome to it...but you said it was "sadly true" :d

imho he he

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

Big Slap to Rodney and the Coaching staff on shutting down the right players. I know it was the players who done the job, but it was good choices all round on who went onto who

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

Ghost dog, Hooper is that small it's no real surprise he took a mark so low. Name one outstanding feature you see in his game?
Pace? Questionable
Strength? No
Endurance? No
Disposal? Just ok
When you are that small, you need to have something special see Brent Harvey

Pace : Top 4 in the Club for speed over 20m
Strength : I dare you to arm wrestle him
Endurance : Has worked hard on his fitness and that,s why he has played more time up the ground at Williamstown
Disposal : 14 disposals at 71% with two tackles , his zone pressure was very good

If memory serves me correct , young Andrew was the first player since Dermott Brereton to make his debut in a Final , this was his first full game at AFL level this year and you sledge him

You deserve two sledges

.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

Slap: Cooney, Higgins, Grant and Hall what a difference form makes.
Slap: Griffen, Murphy, Ward, Gia, Picken, Dollhouse and Boyd just keep on keeping on.

Sledge: Barlow trying to mark with his hands a metre apart.

I thought Hooper did ok.

[SonofScray]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

SLAPS

Cooney - looks like he might be "back." Just a bit of a glimpse of his best last night, huge for us if he strings some games like that together.

Higgins - I do not like him at all and will preface this slap with my old favourite "its easy to get a kick across half back," but, credit where it is due. He played an elite game of half back last night and helped move the ball cleanly and directly through the midfield.

SLEDGE

Grant - could be anything. When he is up and about he does special things. Sadly at this level so far this year he hasn't shown that he is interested in being an AFL footballer. Start putting the work in, or say goodbye to all hat promise.

Ted Barlow -only a minor sledge as he is my new favourite player, after Trent Bartlett and Peter Street. Just didn't get his arms up for the overhead mark a few times in the middle of the ground which caused a few easy turnovers and clearances from the ensuing contest. He'd lead the stats sheet for putting the ball out of bounds from a marking contest. Love his work rate, his ability to make a contest etc but he was a bit down really.

[lemmon]

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Ghost dog, he is that small it's no real surprise he took a mark so low. Name one outstanding feature you see in his game?
Pace? Questionable
Strength? No
Endurance? No
Disposal? Just ok
When you are that small, you need to have something special see Brent Harvey

Could say the same about J Blair and he'd definitley be in our starting 18. Not saying Hooper will make it or not but the only way to find out is through game time.

[Topdog]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

Gotta give Hooper at least 2 games in the seniors (consecutive) before you can sledge him IMO. Same goes for any other player.

Sledge
Grant: Just goes missing for 90% of the game and stuffed up THAT goal.

Slap
Grant: After that miss he set up 2 goals in about 5 minutes. One with a shepard for Gia who did that reverse banana. The other with one of the best i50 kicks I have seen this season to Hall.

The rest of my slaps and sledges have been made by others already.

[Greystache]

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Sledge:Media for not rating Griffen.

It's an interesting one isn't it? IMO the media overated Griffen for a long time, yet now he is deserving of every bit of praise they can give him, he isn't getting the acknowledgement he should.

[ledge]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

I took a good look at Hooper last night thought he presented a lot (but others were preferred)he chased hard has a solid build for getting through a congested area, he linked up a few times and I can see a lot in him. just needs a few games and to get in the groove with the team.
Desipura, makes me wonder what you thought of Grant after his first game.
What did Hooper do so bad that you have thrown in the towel on him so early?
Jack Watts would never have played another game either if you base a player on one or two games.
There are many great players who wouldnt have gone anywhere near Hoopers figures in their first 2 games.

Stack is maybe the one supporters could be saying it about but not a kid after 2 games who had some figures.

Lets give him a decent chance.

[Mofra]

Re: Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

Slaps:
Gia - Best season he's played so far. Obviously takes leadership responsibilitiers seriously, seemed very vocal last night
Higgins - Possibly the best game I've seen him play. To not just towel up Sylvia (who's been in good form) buit to drift forward, kick 2, and win contested ball in the backline; that was special
Jones - He can actually pinch hit as a ruckman, and every game he plays he gets a bit better at holding contested grabs (he's had almost 50% of our team's total for the year )

Sledges:
Barlow - I know you work hard to get to contests but you are 195cm - put your bloody arms up when you attempt a mark. You will at least influence the contest
Small sledge to the coaching panel - it would have been nice to bring Reid on with maybe 10-15 minutes to go in the 3rd, give him a bit more gametime