Round #15 - Slaps and Sledges

[Desipura]

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I took a good look at Hooper last night thought he presented a lot (but others were preferred)he chased hard has a solid build for getting through a congested area, he linked up a few times and I can see a lot in him. just needs a few games and to get in the groove with the team.
Desipura, makes me wonder what you thought of Grant after his first game.
What did Hooper do so bad that you have thrown in the towel on him so early?
Jack Watts would never have played another game either if you base a player on one or two games.
There are many great players who wouldnt have gone anywhere near Hoopers figures in their first 2 games.

Stack is maybe the one supporters could be saying it about but not a kid after 2 games who had some figures.

Lets give him a decent chance.

Grant started the game with the intensity I want from him, had a poor middle part of the game then came into it late in the 3rd qtr.
After that acrobatic mark, his confidence lifted, his kick for oak never deviated.
That mark alone teased me as to how good he could become if he wants it badly enough.
I'm ok with giving Hoops a chance, it won't change my early opinion of him.

[1eyedog]

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We're not really supposed to make reference to the MC possibly knowing more about the players/game than us WOOF posters.

Just letting you know.

Thanks for the tip off and happy to buck the trend

[1eyedog]

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Pace : Top 4 in the Club for speed over 20m
Strength : I dare you to arm wrestle him
Endurance : Has worked hard on his fitness and that,s why he has played more time up the ground at Williamstown
Disposal : 14 disposals at 71% with two tackles , his zone pressure was very good

If memory serves me correct , young Andrew was the first player since Dermott Brereton to make his debut in a Final , this was his first full game at AFL level this year and you sledge him

You deserve two sledges

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WD I'm pissing myself laughing at this one I like the way you roll

[ledge]

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Grant started the game with the intensity I want from him, had a poor middle part of the game then came into it late in the 3rd qtr.
After that acrobatic mark, his confidence lifted, his kick for oak never deviated.
That mark alone teased me as to how good he could become if he wants it badly enough.
I'm ok with giving Hoops a chance, it won't change my early opinion of him.

I was talking about Grants first game ever.

[Desipura]

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I was talking about Grants first game ever.

Although you could see he did not have much strength and endurance, was impressed with his intensity and pace to catch Judd holding the ball, not too many players can do that.
Don't want to harp on it, I cannot see a real strength that Hoops has got that would enable him to play AFL long term.

[1eyedog]

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Although you could see he did not have much strength and endurance, was impressed with his intensity and pace to catch Judd holding the ball, not too many players can do that.
Don't want to harp on it, I cannot see a real strength that Hoops has got that would enable him to play AFL long term.

I would put my house on a bet to say the same about Liberatore Snr, Weightman, T. Shaw and Milne as well after their second game.

The club should employ you as a recruiter given your insight.

[Topdog]

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Don't want to harp on it, I cannot see a real strength that Hoops has got that would enable him to play AFL long term.

I don't see it either but no point promoting him if we don't leave him in for at least 2 games.

[Sedat]

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Barlow was certainly available as an outlet everytime we needed him which helps us structurally. For the moment that is enough for him and it is making a difference but if he is going to be a long term contributor he needs to do more than just dead weight himself in one on one marking contests. I dont expect him to split sides open with his disposal but I want him to compete a little more ferociously in the air. A few times he needed to go at the ball in the air and take a bit of punishment but he angled his body and stayed flat footed instead. Actually didnt jump a number of times also. He is certainly showing enough to persist with though and his workrate is a massive weapon.

The thing I think people are missing with Barlow is that on the occasions when we were static in our defensive 50, he was the only player capable of providing an outlet option that would, at worst case, result in a 50/50 out of bounds or stoppage away from the danger area. Without him presenting time after time, we have no outlet to release the pressure out of the opposition's forward press.

I agree that he can't rely on just 'competing' if he is to make a long-term go of his career, but he'll do the job until such time as we get a player of that size on our list that can run all day to provide an option.

[Raw Toast]

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One of the best contested marks in the league already and only going to get better, but he is never going to be a great kick

Slap - Higgins. Helped win almost every contest he was in, disposal was superb and provided plenty of run. Showed why some inside the club were rating him as likely to become our best player a couple of years ago.

Slap - Jones. Apart from a couple of instances early and that awful handball he competed well in the ruck and took a number of telling marks. I really liked the move of him into the ruck.

Slap - Cooney. The thing I've liked best about him since his return is his intense desire to impose himself on the contest.

Slap - Williams. Surprised he has not been mentioned much. Did a number of very important things that outweighed his major brain-fade.

Slaps of course to Griffen, Picken, Hudson, Gia, and Hall.

Slap - Grant. Yes he needs to improve his workrate, but he created the banana goal for Gia with a very important shepard, created two goals for Hall from beautiful passes, and took a wonderful mark.

Sledges - our backline still has a few too many communication issues, while the Jones/Grant issue was phone-killing stuff.

[AndrewP6]

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Excuse the Police for trying to do their jobs. I wonder if you'd be sledging them if one of those stray arms had connected with your head or you'd had blood splattered all over you.

The man in question had at least 3 (and at one point 4) of them holding him down, there was enough room for me to get past them, and when they finally said I could go past, nothing at all had changed -ie- I could've gone through right from the start.

Sledge stands.

[Drunken Bum]

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It was a slam tackle(my biggest pet hate ATM) exactly the same as he put on Dangerfield, the only difference was that the shoulder and not the head hit the ground first. We shouldn't wait for the player who is tackled to get injured before doing something about it.

So he should be suspended for the rest of the year for it? You are agreeing that is correct punishment? For a tackle, that previous to this year was legal and did not cause any injury?
The comment i questioned was beyond ridiculous. Lets have a look at it again shall we

- The slam tackle - someone will end up in a wheelchair. A 3 week suspension is obviously not a deterrent - rub Trengove out for the rest of the season.

Going by that logic, every person that ducks their head in a tackle or dives into a players legs to get the ball(draw a free kick) should be suspended for life because someone could end up in a wheelchair from it.

[the banker]

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I thought Barlow competed his ass off tonight. I'm not expecting miracles from him but he covers a hell of a lot of ground and gets to an awful lot of contests because of his amazing tank. Whilst he didn't take many marks, he certainly did well to prevent his direct opponent from marking it, and in a couple of occasions he made sure the ball dropped to a teammates advantage resultimg in a goal. Structurally we are much more balanced with a player of his skill-set in the team and less of the lumbering tall timber.

Slap - apart from what has already been mentioned, I loved our decision-making abilty all night. We took risks when we needed to pierce the press and we went safety first and played the percentages when we needed to as well. Melbourne played like millionaires by comparison.

Sledge - memo to Tom Williams and Easton Wood, if you're going to leave you man and spoil the ball you need to kill the contest stone dead. Also Jarrad Grant made a couple of half-assed chasing efforts in the first half - he improved significantly in the 2nd half in his defensive work.

Agrre with all this

[LostDoggy]

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Start a thread to the dreadlock appreciation society D.A.S

The vigour and energy Dahlhaus brings to the team is uplifting for me, Well done.

[Desipura]

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I would put my house on a bet to say the same about Liberatore Snr, Weightman, T. Shaw and Milne as well after their second game.

The club should employ you as a recruiter given your insight.

Perhaps they could employ you as smart ass.
If I am wrong you can gloat all you want, if he does not make it as I suspect, I will not be saying told you so.
Just because I have gone out on a limb and made a premature comment about a players prospects, yup do not have to get sensitive about it.
It's not as if I do not make a big call on other players (positive prospects) early in their career, see Liam Jones.

[Desipura]

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Start a thread to the dreadlock appreciation society D.A.S

The vigour and energy Dahlhaus brings to the team is uplifting for me, Well done.

Agree Kaiser, his energy is contagious at the moment.