Round #17 Match Committee

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  • stefoid
    Senior Player
    • Dec 2009
    • 1846

    #61
    Re: Round #17 Match Committee

    Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
    I would be using Williams at CHB regardless of the opponent. I expect Petrie to be more FF and happy for Markovic to be his match up.
    Petrie is a good mark but not really a fast leading forward. Markovic seems to be able to do enough in the body contests to put those players off.

    If our forwards and mids exert enough defensive pressure, we should be able to prevent the precise delivery that finds any defender out.
    You make a good point. Williams playing close to goal marking a dangerous opponent means he will be purely reactive and one mistake = goal.

    Whereas if he has freedom to run around a bit he can attack the ball and give us some run.

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10246

      #62
      Re: Round #17 Match Committee

      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
      I would be using Williams at CHB regardless of the opponent. I expect Petrie to be more FF and happy for Markovic to be his match up.
      Petrie is a good mark but not really a fast leading forward. Markovic seems to be able to do enough in the body contests to put those players off.

      If our forwards and mids exert enough defensive pressure, we should be able to prevent the precise delivery that finds any defender out.
      Petrie can beat pretty much anyone one on one, but as soon as there's a third man up in the contest, he's cooked 99% of the time. (See the St. Kilda game).

      The Roos don't kick it to anyone else, so if we play a man behind the ball we will win this game easily.
      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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      • Hotdog60
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2009
        • 6019

        #63
        Re: Round #17 Match Committee

        I'm a big Libba fan and would like to see him in, it maybe just my impression but Libba looked a little battle worn in the Foxtel cup. It is his first season and has reached great heights but I just wonder if competing against hard bodies are taking a little bit of a toll.

        Just wondering if we need to tread lightly. If people think I'm wrong because I don't see any Willi games unless on TV in QLD which is never except for the Foxtel Cup I'll go with the flow.
        Don't piss off old people
        The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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        • Dazza
          WOOF Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 550

          #64
          Re: Round #17 Match Committee

          Nope you are correct. He looks like he's struggling to run games out.

          Addison or Vez for Reid would be my change.

          With Addison you know what you are going to get and if given a role forward to shut down his opponent and apply pressure you'd expect him to do it and do it well. He can also pop up with some marks and goals too.

          Vez probably is the more dangerous forward of the 2. Not convinced of his tank to run out a game though. He played very well in the foxtel cup and pressured well all game. Wouldn't be against having him in the side.

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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13387

            #65
            Re: Round #17 Match Committee

            Originally posted by dazb
            Nope you are correct. He looks like he's struggling to run games out.

            Addison or Vez for Reid would be my change.

            With Addison you know what you are going to get and if given a role forward to shut down his opponent and apply pressure you'd expect him to do it and do it well. He can also pop up with some marks and goals too.

            Vez probably is the more dangerous forward of the 2. Not convinced of his tank to run out a game though. He played very well in the foxtel cup and pressured well all game. Wouldn't be against having him in the side.
            Sub?
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45571

              #66
              Re: Round #17 Match Committee

              Barlow if fit for hill thats the only change
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #67
                Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                Originally posted by dazb
                Vez probably a more dangerous forward than Addison. Not convinced of his tank to run out a game though. He played very well in the foxtel cup and pressured well all game. Wouldn't be against having him in the side.
                Originally posted by 1eyedog
                Vez as the Sub?
                The Sub has to have a big enough tank to cover an early injury , you don,t want someone who covers a 1st quarter injury and by the end of the 3rd they need a Ventolin, black coffee and a push start

                For Veszpremi to get in the team he has to replace Grant who despite having a few flaws gives us leg speed , so young Patrick will have to have a much sharper set of tools to make his way into the 22

                Even though Hooper has taken the zone small forward role , Addison could play a role as Sub by being a wide midfield rotation, he has worked on his overhead marking and our current game plan is based on hitting marking targets so he fits the bill against North Melbourne

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                • Dry Rot
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6471

                  #68
                  Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                  How do Willi watchers rate Vez's defensive pressure?
                  The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #69
                    Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                    No change.

                    Or if a change is made I'd link Vez for Hill.

                    This weekend is a danger game for us. NM will be firing after their horrid performance against the scum.

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                    • Rocco Jones
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6984

                      #70
                      Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                      Originally posted by Dry Rot
                      How do Willi watchers rate Vez's defensive pressure?
                      Not too bad. I also think his tank isn't that bad either. My main issue with him is his lack of exceleration, which is vital in modern footy. I think it puts pressure on his tank/work rate/defensive pressure to be more than OK.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #71
                        Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                        Vez or Barlow maybe.

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                        • Doc26
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3087

                          #72
                          Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                          Can't agree on the calls for Vez. He's currently both slow and with little endurance at the top level which would damage our developing press. Unfortunately the opposition would exploit this deficiency.

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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6984

                            #73
                            Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                            Originally posted by Doc26
                            Can't agree on the calls for Vez. He's currently both slow and with little endurance at the top level which would damage our developing press. Unfortunately the opposition would exploit this deficiency.
                            I think you're being a tad harsh but I ultimately agree.

                            East Perth are a very poor side.

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                            • the banker
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 453

                              #74
                              Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                              Vez doesn't offer what we need ATM IMO. Explosive speed and tackling pressure in the forward 50 are the attributes. Reid although struggling has more potential in these areas. Vez looks more a lead up forward who is a good converter.

                              No change for me, except if Barlow was right. In for Hill.
                              WesternOval'61

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #75
                                Re: Round #17 Match Committee

                                Originally posted by the banker
                                Vez doesn't offer what we need ATM IMO. Explosive speed and tackling pressure in the forward 50 are the attributes. Reid although struggling has more potential in these areas. Vez looks more a lead up forward who is a good converter.

                                No change for me, except if Barlow was right. In for Hill.
                                I would be happy with that. One thing that annoys me a little is there are people calling for Reid and Hooper when they are the blokes that have helped turn this team around in recent weeks. Sure little possessions but the amount of sheppards, blocks, running hard to space and just generally following the game plan has been a breath of fresh air for me. Senior players may not use them as much as they should but it has been good. Unfortunately Hill annoys me for the exact opposite reasons.

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