Its done now,who will take over?

[Bornadog]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

The problem with your argument is that we are in a steep decline which may not bottom for a year or two.

So Eade still wouldn't have one with us if he had a new 3 year contract.

I don't believe for one minute we are in a steep decline. We have debuted more players than 15 other teams (not GC of course) and we have played each week with a group of around 10 players with less than 50 games yet we beat Carlton who are contenders for a top 4 and should have beaten WestCoast (another top 4 contender) if it wasn't for Razor Ray. A little luck and we could have been in the top eight.

Ok alot of ifs and buts but certainly not on a steep decline.

[anfo27]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

You can put any spin on it you want but the fact is it took Malthouse 10 years to win a flag at Collingwood. Rocket has been with us 7 years. I believe that it IS about the resources that coaches have at their disposal. We agree to differ.

We all talk about resources as if its his only downfall. What about his tactics to combat the press and his stubborness to admit that it was half way through this year that admitted to himself that his tactics in beating it was not working? that has nothing to do with resources. A reluctance to drop senior players who are not pulling their weight has nothing to do with resources.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

I don't believe for one minute we are in a steep decline. We have debuted more players than 15 other teams (not GC of course) and we have played each week with a group of around 10 players with less than 50 games yet we beat Carlton who are contenders for a top 4 and should have beaten WestCoast (another top 4 contender) if it wasn't for Razor Ray. A little luck and we could have been in the top eight.

Ok alot of ifs and buts but certainly not on a steep decline.

Good post.

Also, take all of Collingwood's defenders from last year out and put in a bunch of players who have played less than 20 games and would anyone still think they're premiership favourites?

[Bornadog]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

We all talk about resources as if its his only downfall. What about his tactics to combat the press and his stubborness to admit that it was half way through this year that admitted to himself that his tactics in beating it was not working? that has nothing to do with resources. A reluctance to drop senior players who are not pulling their weight has nothing to do with resources.

We know your a Rocket hater, why don't you stick to the thread topic.

[ReLoad]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

I must admit as soon as I heard Fantasia was on the panel overseeing the coaching decision I thought it would end up a Kangaroo court. Fantasia is hardly going to broach issues or problems that would bring into question his role in our current circumstances.

Any attempt at a professional coaching review process, would've identified that it might be a conflict of interest to include Fantasia from being involved in that process, when there just might be a case to be made that he might be part of the problem.

I don't get the anti Fantasia stuff, I wouldn't have a clue if he is good or bad, but does someone have some serious proof that he is rotten to the core as someone suggested?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

We all talk about resources as if its his only downfall. What about his tactics to combat the press and his stubborness to admit that it was half way through this year that admitted to himself that his tactics in beating it was not working? that has nothing to do with resources. A reluctance to drop senior players who are not pulling their weight has nothing to do with resources.

Go and watch the Press conference and listen to what was said in relation to the half way point of the season

This has already been pointed out to you on another thread yet you still want to serve it up as your evidence as to why Eade should be sacked and held solely resposible for our W/L record this year.

[Rocket Science]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

Any attempt at a professional coaching review process, would've identified that it might be a conflict of interest to include Fantasia from being involved in that process, when there just might be a case to be made that he might be part of the problem.

Absolutely. An astute and professional approach to any such fact finding mission must surely dictate Fantasia should've been as subject to the review every bit as much as Eade, not one of the blokes actually conducting it.

[Missing-Dog]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

I wonder if German get's Willy up for the VFL GF he is in with a shot?

I dont mind the idea, i had thought similarly
Couldnt imagine it happening though

[Dry Rot]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

I don't believe for one minute we are in a steep decline. We have debuted more players than 15 other teams (not GC of course) and we have played each week with a group of around 10 players with less than 50 games yet we beat Carlton who are contenders for a top 4 and should have beaten WestCoast (another top 4 contender) if it wasn't for Razor Ray. A little luck and we could have been in the top eight.

Ok alot of ifs and buts but certainly not on a steep decline.

So you think we'll have a good list for next year and beyond?

[Bornadog]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

So you think we'll have a good list for next year and beyond?

We have the makings of a good list, but like every year we have to delist and trade and recruit to replenish. I don't believe we have a list to make the top 4, but as the kids grow in confidence and experience we will get there.

We have players that will be fantastic for us in the future.

Have a look at these pups:

* Libba
* Dahlhaus
* Jones
* Roughead
* Howard
* Schofield
* Wood

They have all shown something this year and if we can hold on to Ward, this will be a nucleus for a good side.

[anfo27]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

We know your a Rocket hater, why don't you stick to the thread topic.

thats rubbish. i'm not a rocket hater, infact I like rocket, i just think his time is up.
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I'm just answering other posters posts bornadog. I know your not happy with the decision but everyone who is is not automatically a rocket hater

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

So you think we'll have a good list for next year and beyond?

The list is what it is.

Is Eade the best coach we could have? Absolutely.

[anfo27]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

Go and watch the Press conference and listen to what was said in relation to the half way point of the season

This has already been pointed out to you on another thread yet you still want to serve it up as your evidence as to why Eade should be sacked and held solely resposible for our W/L record this year.

never said he was solely responsible and never said get rid of Eade and our problems would be solved. But go ahead and keep making stuff up that i have said.

[kruder]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

We know your a Rocket hater, why don't you stick to the thread topic.

It's called an opinion barn dog and for some reason if it differs from yours and some of the long time posters you dont seem to like it!

Hate is a big word.. We are only talking about footy.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Its done now,who will take over?

I want either Malthouse or the best rookie we can find + a massive upgrade to our footy department. If we go for the same, cheapo assistant panel and a rookie, we are in massive trouble. Eade was great with limited resources, the best in the business. If we want to go cheap, we have just made a terrible decision.