Its done now,who will take over?

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  • the banker
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 453

    Re: Its done now,who will take over?

    Originally posted by Lantern
    I didn't have a personal relationship with Rocket.

    I'm emo because we're behaving like an unstable, backstabbing club full of hidden, personal agendas. How's that worked out for Richmond over the years?

    Strong clubs don't do crap to look strong.
    I find this assessment rather weird. How is not giving your coach of 7 years a new contract backstabbing? He was not sacked, just not re-appointed. The KPI's suggested that he was not achieving the results and most successful organizations would have a natural changing of the order in this sort of timeframe. What is your opinion on Essendon and Sheedy, Collingwood and Malthouse?

    Unstable, Backstabbing? Seems that some of the posts here, even coming from distant posters who may or may not be insiders (I am a mere paid up peripheral member and supporter for 50 years and have no inside connections) have more the tone of backstabbing and instability re the football department than they have shown in managing a relatively successful era for our Club. IMO they made the correct forward looking decision in looking to refresh and give us a chance for continued competiveness.
    WesternOval'61

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66738

      Re: Its done now,who will take over?

      Originally posted by Dry Rot
      My concern is that Eade presented a realistic view they didn't want to hear.
      Your not wrong there.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66738

        Re: Its done now,who will take over?

        Originally posted by Greystache
        It's also possible his plan presented to the panel was so far off the mark in their eyes that the decision made itself. Perhaps they thought Leon Cameron is a far better person to coach the club next year, and there are potentially even better candidates than him in the market, so Eade is an automatic no.

        Just saying we have no idea what the drivers behind the decision were.
        To me a thorough process is a complete analysis of the football department from Fantasia down to see if we have the best available people running it. This should involve independent people along with club people. Then after that, if the coach, assistants and football operations manager are not going to take us to the next stage we can then make a decision and get the right people. A powerpoint presentation followed by a discussion is not a thorough process.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Desipura
          WOOF Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 4344

          Re: Its done now,who will take over?

          Originally posted by Dry Rot
          My concern is that Eade presented a realistic view they didn't want to hear.
          Well, he is as much to blame as the list could have been better managed.

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          • LongWait
            WOOF Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 936

            Re: Its done now,who will take over?

            A lot of opinions are being passed off as fact on this site.

            None of us know what the Board assessment of Rocket really is; none of us know what assessment Rocket made of the list; none of us know what Rocket and/or his manager said to the Board to bring about the announcement not to offer him a further contract.

            We do know that Rocket is a good bloke. We do know that we have failed to play in a Grand Final after 7 years under Rocket. We do know that our playing group is likely to be at least 2 years from challenging to play in a Grand Final.

            What about we lay off the club and its' management and stop behaving like Richmond supporters.

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            • Sockeye Salmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6365

              Re: Its done now,who will take over?

              Originally posted by LongWait
              A lot of opinions are being passed off as fact on this site.

              None of us know what the Board assessment of Rocket really is; none of us know what assessment Rocket made of the list; none of us know what Rocket and/or his manager said to the Board to bring about the announcement not to offer him a further contract.

              We do know that Rocket is a good bloke. We do know that we have failed to play in a Grand Final after 7 years under Rocket. We do know that our playing group is likely to be at least 2 years from challenging to play in a Grand Final.

              What about we lay off the club and its' management and stop behaving like Richmond supporters.
              Actually, quite a few of us know quite a lot of that.


              And I'll stop acting like a Richmond supporter when our club's management stops acting like Richmond's management!

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              • LongWait
                WOOF Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 936

                Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                Actually, quite a few of us know quite a lot of that.


                And I'll stop acting like a Richmond supporter when our club's management stops acting like Richmond's management!
                How and what do you "know" - I assume you are suggesting you know Rocket's side of the story. In the circumstances not the most reliable account perhaps.

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                • Maddog37
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3132

                  Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                  I would love to know what and how you know SS. I am very interested and would appreciate any sharing of knowledge.

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10143

                    Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                    mjp, are there any other applicants that you have an informed opinion on?
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • Sockeye Salmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6365

                      Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                      Originally posted by Maddog37
                      I would love to know what and how you know SS. I am very interested and would appreciate any sharing of knowledge.
                      There's people on here who are very well connected to the club.

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                      • Maddog37
                        WOOF Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3132

                        Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                        Say no more SS. Understood.

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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7366

                          Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                          Originally posted by Happy Days
                          mjp, are there any other applicants that you have an informed opinion on?
                          Not really.
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • Desipura
                            WOOF Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4344

                            Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                            There's people on here who are very well connected to the club.
                            Yes however will they be well connected when the new coach comes in?

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                              Originally posted by Desipura
                              Yes however will they be well connected when the new coach comes in?
                              Some still will be.


                              I've been to the footy many times with an older guy, long retired, who lives right next to the Whitten Oval and has barely missed a training session in years - even closed sessions (and other Woofer's know him a whole lot better than I do).

                              Every player, every trainer, nearly every club employee knows who he is and would stop and chat to him.

                              He would be privvy to plenty.

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                              • Maddog37
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3132

                                Re: Its done now,who will take over?

                                Good to hear SS. Any inside info keeps us longer distance supporters closer to the club.

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