Round #23 Match Committee

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  • Mantis
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    • Apr 2007
    • 15398

    #31
    Re: Round #23 Match Committee

    Originally posted by bornadog
    I am starting to feel sorry for Wood at 185cm. Just because he can jump a bit we expect him to play on Gorillas. He has done that a few times and in every game has been smashed. We need another solution.
    Didn't he do quite well on Tippett last year?

    And with 3 or 4 of our first choice defenders being out we don't have many options... especially when a few of other replacements aren't suited.

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    • Bornadog
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      • Jan 2007
      • 66510

      #32
      Re: Round #23 Match Committee

      Originally posted by Mantis
      Didn't he do quite well on Tippett last year?

      And with 3 or 4 of our first choice defenders being out we don't have many options... especially when a few of other replacements aren't suited.
      Can't imagine him beating Tippet who is a monster, but I can't remember the game either.

      Yes, we don't have much options. I would just go with Markovic and work on stopping their midfield.
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      • Mantis
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        • Apr 2007
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        #33
        Re: Round #23 Match Committee

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Can't imagine him beating Tippet who is a monster, but I can't remember the game either.
        He played on him on in the wet in Adel late last year.... maybe rd 19, the week before he played on SJ and did his hammy.

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Yes, we don't have much options. I would just go with Markovic and work on stopping their midfield.
        Good luck with that.

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        • Bornadog
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          • Jan 2007
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          #34
          Re: Round #23 Match Committee

          Originally posted by Mantis
          He played on him on in the wet in Adel late last year.... maybe rd 19, the week before he played on SJ and did his hammy.



          Good luck with that.
          Yeah that's right, but it was wet and not made for big guys so really doesn't count.

          Hawthorn will win by 80 points.
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          • Mantis
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            • Apr 2007
            • 15398

            #35
            Re: Round #23 Match Committee

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Yeah that's right, but it was wet and not made for big guys so really doesn't count.
            Of course it doesn't.

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            • Bornadog
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              • Jan 2007
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              #36
              Re: Round #23 Match Committee

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Of course it doesn't.
              Not sure why you are rolling your eyes.

              The game was played in atrocious conditions and not made for big guys. In any case, Wood actually didn't play on Tippet, Williams did. In the last quarter when things were tight with a goal the difference, the ball was kicked into the Adelaide forward line and Tippet was on his own, Wood chased Tippet down and beat him on the ground and then cleared the ball.

              Tippet spent a lot of time in the ruck that night as they only had himself and Maric.

              Lets face it Wood should not play against these big guys, I would even prefer Mulligan if we are that desperate.
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              • Bulldog Joe
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jul 2009
                • 5532

                #37
                Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Can't imagine him beating Tippet who is a monster, but I can't remember the game either.

                Yes, we don't have much options. I would just go with Markovic and work on stopping their midfield.
                I would go with Wood as he is the only with enough zip apart from Murphy. Cross to drop back for the chop out intercept mark as well.

                Do need to limit their midfield and Boyd MUST negate Mitchell with a defensive mind set.

                Not sure Roughy can provide enough presence. He did do some nice things against Port but was still outpointed by a VFL standard ruckman.
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                • LongWait
                  WOOF Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 938

                  #38
                  Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                  I'd like to see Jones spend some time on Buddy: for the learning it should bring him more than anything else. Doesn't matter what the result of the game is. We need to use every opportunity to teach the young players what it takes to succeed at AFL level.

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                  • Desipura
                    WOOF Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 4344

                    #39
                    Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                    I hope we dont do to Wood what we did to Kretiuk. Having to play taller was one of the reasons he copped some many hammy injuries. The legs were not designed to stretch and jump as much as Kretters had to.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #40
                      Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                      Mulligan (Williams lite) is the only healthy player on our list who has the height, speed and agility to go with Buddy in a defensive role. Markovic (Lake lite) will be run around and probably twang his hammy in the process.

                      In any case, they are the two key backs on our list that are there purely for depth PRECISELY in case our first choice KPBs get injured. If we can't play them on key position forwards when Williams and Lake are injured, we may as well delist them tomorrow. We made our bed (signed Mulligan as a back-up KPP) let's at least lie in it a bit.

                      Wood or Cross can get across from their own match-ups and help out, but starting Wood on Buddy doesn't make sense from a tactical, structural or physical standpoint -- he's been beaten in the air by far lesser players than Buddy the last couple of weeks. I'll trust Wood to leave his man to help out more than the reverse (ie. Mulligan leaving HIS opponent to help Wood out). Finally, Easton's great strength is running the ball out of defense, and since we want someone to play a tighter negating role on Buddy, all it would end up doing is rob us of Easton's run if he was just following Buddy around all night (and conversely we would be leaving Buddy too free if Easton plays his natural game).

                      I know Mulligan's a spud, but surely may be at least nuisance value in a purely negating role where we're not asking him to do anything with the ball.

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                      • The Bulldogs Bite
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11191

                        #41
                        Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                        I'd like to see us develop Wood as a midfielder for next year. Obviously we can't do that right now, but given the state of our list and his potential, I think it's something we should try. We aren't going to be able to plug every hole, but let's try and build a young midfield together. Wood's ability to win a contest, break away from opponents with strength and speed, and carry the football are traits that could see him become a quality midfielder. It'd really help out Griffen who is clearly struggling withut Cooney.
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                        • LostDoggy
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                          • Jan 2007
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                          #42
                          Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                          Originally posted by Lantern
                          I know Mulligan's a spud, but surely may be at least nuisance value in a purely negating role where we're not asking him to do anything with the ball.
                          I reckon Dollhouse would be a better option than Mulligan.

                          Wood was beaten in the air by Butcher. Buddy is nothing special in the air but it's when the ball hits the ground Wood is at his best although I am suggesting this against a poor lot of options.

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                          • Remi Moses
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                            • Jan 2009
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                            #43
                            Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                            Originally posted by St 07
                            DJ was pretty good. He actually works exceptionally hard.

                            Surely we must persist with him.
                            Agreed I think Djkuerra is getting better.

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                            • Bulldog Joe
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                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5532

                              #44
                              Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                              Originally posted by EJ Smith
                              I reckon Dollhouse would be a better option than Mulligan.

                              Wood was beaten in the air by Butcher. Buddy is nothing special in the air but it's when the ball hits the ground Wood is at his best although I am suggesting this against a poor lot of options.
                              My observation was that Barlow was mostly opposed to Butcher.
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                              • LostDoggy
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                                • Jan 2007
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                                #45
                                Re: Round #23 Match Committee

                                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                                Agreed I think Djkuerra is getting better.
                                His hands off the deck are definitely a concern though -- for such a small player, his ball handling needs to be spot on, and there was a passage where he had all the time in the world to steady and pick it up and it would have been a certain goal if he did but it just kept slipping out of his hands and he had to soccer it under pressure in the end and the opportunity was gone.

                                Is there anything the coaches can do to improve this aspect of his game? Practice makes perfect right -- he needs to just spend a LOT of time on this.

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