Why Callan Ward should stay

[Ghost Dog]

Callan, I think you should stay.
Not just because I'm a Bulldogs supporter.
But because I don't really think it will make you more successful as a player, moving to GWS.

Firstly, how much more money does a man need to be happy, beyond a comfortable living?
An extra $100,000 dollars? $300,000? Million?

If you can already live like a prince, will living like a king make you any happier?

Secondly, for the bulldogs, its more than a business. We're a club, with a history and a strong community.
Social capital is the best kind of salary and by moving to GWS you will actually be taking a dramatic pay cut in Social capital.

Daisy Thomas seems to agree. His salary is likely to be about the same as last year's. That's a club man's attitude. Selwood as well, decided there was more to gain by staying.
Ablett went because they set up his family. That's fine. But your family is here.

It will be a great experience for you up there, no doubt.

But as for the money, does doubling your wage double your happiness?

If you do stay, you'll be a hero at the dogs for life.
So that's why I think you should stay.

[Desipura]

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Callan, I think you should stay.
Not just because I'm a Bulldogs supporter.
But because I don't really think it will make you more successful as a player, moving to GWS.

How much more money does a man need to be happy, beyond a comfortable living?
An extra $100,000 dollars? $300,000? Million?

Daisy Thomas seems to agree. His salary is likely to be about the same as last year's. That's a club man's attitude. Selwood as well, decided there was more to gain by staying.
Ablett went because they set up his family. That's fine. But your family is here.

It will be a great experience for you up there, no doubt.
But as for the money, does doubling your wage make you doubly happy?
If you do stay, you'll be a hero at the dogs for life.
So that's why I think you should stay.

Peter Daicos said recently the best decision he ever made was not leaving Collingwood as it opened up alot of doors post career for him. If he had moved clubs, he does not believe he would have the opportunities he has today.
It does help playing for one of the biggest clubs in Australia!

[EasternWest]

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Callan, I think you should stay.
Not just because I'm a Bulldogs supporter.
But because I don't really think it will make you more successful as a player, moving to GWS.

Firstly, how much more money does a man need to be happy, beyond a comfortable living?
An extra $100,000 dollars? $300,000? Million?

If you can already live like a prince, will living like a king make you any happier?

Secondly, for the bulldogs, its more than a business. We're a club, with a history and a strong community.
Social capital is the best kind of salary and by moving to GWS you will actually be taking a dramatic pay cut in Social capital.

Daisy Thomas seems to agree. His salary is likely to be about the same as last year's. That's a club man's attitude. Selwood as well, decided there was more to gain by staying.
Ablett went because they set up his family. That's fine. But your family is here.

It will be a great experience for you up there, no doubt.

But as for the money, does doubling your wage double your happiness?

If you do stay, you'll be a hero at the dogs for life.
So that's why I think you should stay.

I appreciate your passion GD, but you've unfortunately not given any real reasons why not to go.

Social capital is irrelevant. Bulldog love aside, AFL is his job. If you were offered (For arguments sake, I don't know the exact figure) $100,000 to $400,000 more to leave your current employer, would you go?

I love, love, love my job. But my bags would be already packed.

Does doubling your wage double your happiness? I don't know. Here's a quote from Michael Caine regarding job opportunities and money (and Jaws 4): "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."

Oh, and if you think Dale Thomas' only income stream is from Collingwood and there's no 3rd party compensation, then you've gone full James Cuming.

[Remi Moses]

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So Andrew Swallow has third party arrangements?
So Dustin Martin has Third party arrangements?
Do we have any proof of any third party arrangements for Thomas?
Just Maybe, Just Maybe Thomas and Kruezer can see success and immortality as Selwood probably does!Ask the great Chris Grant how remaining LOYAL, and what it did for him !
Maybe it says a lot about the character of these players than it does others.

[1eyedog]

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While I love the romance of your post the days of clubs before money are long gone.

[LostDoggy]

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Dear Callan,

I'm very sorry i said 'i hope you break your leg' and upset YHF and Ozza.

I take it back and only hope you and Harbrow both keep your eyes firmly fixed on the ball during GWS Vs GC next season.

[Bornadog]

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I appreciate your passion GD, but you've unfortunately not given any real reasons why not to go.

Social capital is irrelevant. Bulldog love aside, AFL is his job. If you were offered (For arguments sake, I don't know the exact figure) $100,000 to $400,000 more to leave your current employer, would you go?

I love, love, love my job. But my bags would be already packed.

Does doubling your wage double your happiness? I don't know. Here's a quote from Michael Caine regarding job opportunities and money (and Jaws 4): "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."

Oh, and if you think Dale Thomas' only income stream is from Collingwood and there's no 3rd party compensation, then you've gone full James Cuming.

There is more to his decisions than money and thats why he hasn't made up his mind. If it was the case just for money he would have signed with GWS by now and put us all out of our misery.

GD, I am with you. Come on supporters lets show Ward how much us doggies supporters love him.

[dadsgirl16]

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How do we "show him how much we love him"? Work out a way and I'm in!!

[Ghost Dog]

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I appreciate your passion GD, but you've unfortunately not given any real reasons why not to go.

Social capital is irrelevant. Bulldog love aside, AFL is his job. If you were offered (For arguments sake, I don't know the exact figure) $100,000 to $400,000 more to leave your current employer, would you go?

I love, love, love my job. But my bags would be already packed.

Does doubling your wage double your happiness? I don't know. Here's a quote from Michael Caine regarding job opportunities and money (and Jaws 4): "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."

Oh, and if you think Dale Thomas' only income stream is from Collingwood and there's no 3rd party compensation, then you've gone full James Cuming.

this is the thread for why Callan Ward should stay. Yes, I am rather tediously idealistic ^_^. But, there is a thread for everyone.

Why did Daisy Thomas decide to re-sign? or Selwood? Reasons for them and Callan are obvious
Because they have forged relationships and have ties to where they are.

Chris Grant could have done well with the Power. Money and success. But he never regrets it.

In your example above, afraid it says a lot about your values.
It would have to depend on the job I was leaving / going to
There are lots of factors involved.
Would you want to play the best footy of your youth for money, while being spanked to the tune of 60+ points every week?

What if the Bulldogs do succeed in doing well in the next 3, 4 seasons. How will that feel to have gone to a start up club with no history, no footy culture, in a place where nobody cares about footy. how will it feel to know you could have enjoyed your peak at a successful club?

[Ghost Dog]

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How do we "show him how much we love him"? Work out a way and I'm in!!

Good question

[Bornadog]

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How do we "show him how much we love him"? Work out a way and I'm in!!

Good question

Get the cheer squad to start a chant We Want Ward, We Want Ward

[G-Mo77]

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I appreciate your passion GD, but you've unfortunately not given any real reasons why not to go.

Social capital is irrelevant. Bulldog love aside, AFL is his job. If you were offered (For arguments sake, I don't know the exact figure) $100,000 to $400,000 more to leave your current employer, would you go?

I love, love, love my job. But my bags would be already packed.

If you offered me a $100 more I'd leave my job. I don't buy this argument when it comes to football. I have friends who I work with but outisde of work I really have very little to do with them. Playing in a football team creates a strong bond between teammates and unless you're Jason Akermanis you walk away with football for friends for life. I'm sure it wouldn't be an easy decision to just take the money and leave your mates behind. There is more to football than money and I really hope Callan takes that on board if he hasn't already made his decision.

[LostDoggy]

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Dear Callan
Dont fall into people telling you its a job and change companies for the money. This is a football club that has generations of passionate supporters on the edge of their seats hoping you will sign with us. You will be a premiership captain in the future and be talked about in the same sentences with all our other champions.Be like Chris Grant .. a champion player but remembered as a champion person as well

[LostDoggy]

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So Andrew Swallow has third party arrangements?
So Dustin Martin has Third party arrangements?
Do we have any proof of any third party arrangements for Thomas?
Just Maybe, Just Maybe Thomas and Kruezer can see success and immortality as Selwood probably does!Ask the great Chris Grant how remaining LOYAL, and what it did for him !
Maybe it says a lot about the character of these players than it does others.

Brilliant post Remi.

I think the 'no one could turn down the money' argument is an insult to the men who actually have.

These are men who have been offered more than what Cal was offered and who weren't born and bred in the region that their clubs represent.

These are men who did put loyalty and friendship ahead of pure financial gain.

Let's not forget that people like that are still out there.

If the reports are true that we've offered Cal a long term contract at $450,000 a season, then he'll be being extremely well compensated to stay with his friends, family and club.

With wise investment and the reduced tax rate that professional sportsman pay, $450,000 a year can be turned into quite a lot of money at retirement.

Would I begrudge a man earning $100,000 from leaving his job for an extra $500,000? No. Of course not.

Would I begrudge a man earning $450,000 from leaving his club for an extra $500,000? Absolutely.

It's still entirely possible that Cal will do the right thing. The club greatly respects him and I'm told he is a quality young man. He may well be waiting for the collective bargaining to conclude so his manager knows exactly how much the club will be able to spend in next year's salary cap.

There's room for a little hope.

That being said, a great many of his peers stood up this week and re-signed with the club. I'd have felt a lot better if he was one of them.

[Ghost Dog]

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Brilliant post Remi.

I think the 'no one could turn down the money' argument is an insult to the men who actually have.

These are men who have been offered more than what Cal was offered and who weren't born and bred in the region that their clubs represent.

These are men who did put loyalty and friendship ahead of pure financial gain.

Let's not forget that people like that are still out there.

If the reports are true that we've offered Cal a long term contract at $450,000 a season, then he'll be being extremely well compensated to stay with his friends, family and club.

With wise investment and the reduced tax rate that professional sportsman pay, $450,000 a year can be turned into quite a lot of money at retirement.

Would I begrudge a man earning $100,000 from leaving his job for an extra $500,000? No. Of course not.

Would I begrudge a man earning $450,000 from leaving his club for an extra $500,000? Absolutely.

It's still entirely possible that Cal will do the right thing. The club greatly respects him and I'm told he is a quality young man. He may well be waiting for the collective bargaining to conclude so his manager knows exactly how much the club will be able to spend in next year's salary cap.

There's room for a little hope.

That being said, a great many of his peers stood up this week and re-signed with the club. I'd have felt a lot better if he was one of them.

Rocket - what a post!
I guess I'm not saying sticking with the club is right.
I'm just trying to say there are plenty of reasons for him to stay.
There seems to be a fair bit of resignation about the club about Callans decision.
A bit of dysthemia and fatalism can lurk around the whitten oval at times.
He might just stay and there are plenty of reasons why it's a good idea.