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  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501
    #1

    Expect 3 years of misery

    Terry Wallace had this to say at the AFL site:


    http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/122129/default.aspx

    13th - WESTERN BULLDOGS
    Similar to Fremantle, the Dogs have a strange list. The new coach has a tough job, as he has a chance to reinvigorate in the first 12 months, but faces massive list decisions and forced retirements within 18 months.

    They may have some good kids but not enough players in the 22/27 age bracket to have success in the 2013/15 period. Who plays key forward with Liam Jones is anyone's guess.

    Sounds like 3 years of misery. Must admit I see the same issues as he does. Plus calls that the new coach will be hopeless when he has a few seasons where the list is against him. Perhaps I am too cynical.

    Comments anyone?
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67710
      #2
      Re: Expect 3 years of misery

      Cordy will play forward with Jones in the future.
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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15548
          #3
          Re: Expect 3 years of misery

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Cordy will play forward with Jones in the future.
          At what point will he have an impact? In 3 years?

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 67710
              #4
              Re: Expect 3 years of misery

              Originally posted by Mantis
              At what point will he have an impact? In 3 years?
              Who knows, but he is earmarked to play majority of the time in the forward line and some time in the ruck. New coach may have different ideas.
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Missing Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8501
                  #5
                  Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                  Cordy seems so thin and easily pushed off the ball. Why hasn't he been hitting the weights?

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                    • Greystache
                      WOOF Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9775
                      #6
                      Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                      Originally posted by PedroArvy
                      Cordy seems so thin and easily pushed off the ball. Why hasn't he been hitting the weights?
                      He's put on 20kg since he got to the club.
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307
                          #7
                          Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                          I pretty much agree. To big a gap in ages between 28+ and 23 and unders.

                          To many kids with not enough games under their belts that look to be best 22.

                          I think 2-3 years of pain is coming up. Seems like 2002 all over again.

                          I hope we embrace the rebuild, draft some guns with low picks next 1-2 years and try and get the kids who are 18-22 as many games as possible in the next few years.

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                            • Missing Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8501
                              #8
                              Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                              Wow, that's a lot.

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                                • Mantis
                                  Hall of Fame
                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 15548
                                  #9
                                  Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                                  Originally posted by bornadog
                                  Who knows, but he is earmarked to play majority of the time in the forward line and some time in the ruck. New coach may have different ideas.
                                  From what we have seen of him so far a lot is going to have to change over the next 12 to 24 months for him to be competitive as a forward.

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                                    • Greystache
                                      WOOF Member
                                      • Dec 2009
                                      • 9775
                                      #10
                                      Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                                      Originally posted by Mantis
                                      From what we have seen of him so far a lot is going to have to change over the next 12 to 24 months for him to be competitive as a forward.
                                      To me he looks like he'll need to put on another 10-15kg's to be competitve, I dont know how athletic he'll be as a forward at 115kg.
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                                        • stefoid
                                          Senior Player
                                          • Dec 2009
                                          • 1846
                                          #11
                                          Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                                          Our midfield is the biggest worry, and thats where we need to concentrate our best draft picks over the next two years - on midfileders that can use the ball well. We already have the extractors in libba and wallis, but they will need someone to give it to.

                                          Luxuries like a replacement for Lake will have to wait. Wthout a decent midfield, no amount of gun defnders will save you.

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                                            • BulldogBelle
                                              WOOF Member
                                              • Nov 2006
                                              • 5284
                                              #12
                                              Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                                              We kept up with Hawthorn for the first 2 quarters, but in the third our younger players tired and the flood of inside 50s increased

                                              Its going to be painful until our younger players like Dahlhaus, Libertore, Wallis, Tutt, Schofield, Roughead + Howard etc have all played 40+ games, and have a decent fitness base

                                              Add Grant and Vezpremni to that list as well

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                                                • Bornadog
                                                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                  • 67710
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                                                  Originally posted by Greystache
                                                  To me he looks like he'll need to put on another 10-15kg's to be competitve, I dont know how athletic he'll be as a forward at 115kg.
                                                  He needs to build strength without putting on too much weight
                                                  FFC: Established 1883

                                                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                                                    • Greystache
                                                      WOOF Member
                                                      • Dec 2009
                                                      • 9775
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                                                      Originally posted by bornadog
                                                      He needs to build strength without putting on too much weight
                                                      Got any thoughts on that?
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                                                        • Mantis
                                                          Hall of Fame
                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                          • 15548
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                                                          Originally posted by Greystache
                                                          To me he looks like he'll need to put on another 10-15kg's to be competitve, I dont know how athletic he'll be as a forward at 115kg.
                                                          There were reports that he has dropped a fair bit of weight during the course of this season as his mobility early on was being adversely affected.

                                                          Agree that he needs to get stronger, but his body shape obviously makes it tough.

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