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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14554

    #46
    Re: Expect 3 years of misery

    Originally posted by Chops
    Sorry to ask where this improvement is going to come from given we will probably lose a number of good experienced players by then?
    Who are going to be our A graders?
    Libber, Wallis, Dahlhaus, Schofield, Tutt, Jones, Roughead, Cordy.
    Bring back the biff

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    • ledge
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2007
      • 14554

      #47
      Re: Expect 3 years of misery

      Oh and I forgot to add the draft picks we get and a kid known as Hunter should be another on the way.
      Bring back the biff

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15547

        #48
        Re: Expect 3 years of misery

        Originally posted by ledge
        Libber, Wallis, Dahlhaus, Schofield, Tutt, Jones, Roughead, Cordy.
        Have you been drinking 'ledge'?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67705

          #49
          Re: Expect 3 years of misery

          Originally posted by ledge
          Oh and I forgot to add the draft picks we get and a kid known as Hunter should be another on the way.
          Originally posted by Mantis
          Have you been drinking 'ledge'?
          A graders Ledge, not good ordinary footballers. We need match winners like another Cooney.
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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14554

            #50
            Re: Expect 3 years of misery

            Originally posted by Mantis
            Have you been drinking 'ledge'?
            Nope but its who we have been pinning our hopes on, even Eade must have been. I refuse to give in.
            Bring back the biff

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14554

              #51
              Re: Expect 3 years of misery

              Originally posted by bornadog
              A graders Ledge, not good ordinary footballers. We need match winners like another Cooney.
              Written off as not A graders and now just good ordinary footballers?
              Some in their first year of footy, anyone remember Cox first two years at West Coast?
              Bring back the biff

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 15116

                #52
                Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                Libba has all the tools to become an A grader, seems a born footballer
                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #53
                  Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                  Originally posted by ledge
                  Libber, Wallis, Dahlhaus, Schofield, Tutt, Jones, Roughead, Cordy.
                  A few years ago that list was Everitt, Hill, Higgins, Grant, Ward and Tiller!

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14554

                    #54
                    Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                    Cain I must say I am dissappointed how some see doom and gloom and its sad its how some players in their first or second year are getting written off so quickly because "the team" had a bad year, these new players need to find their feet.
                    Dahlhaus will win games for us so will some of the others, in fact I think Dahlhaus has already won us games through his efforts and enthusiasm.
                    Okay some players are past it but I certainly wont let the kids be put down when some of them have done some remarkable stuff in just their first season in the ones.
                    I for one love what I see and the future can be very bright, its whats happening upstairs thats the problem.
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • Mantis
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15547

                      #55
                      Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Libba has all the tools to become an A grader, seems a born footballer
                      Yep, full agree with that call.

                      Jones has some 'A' grade traits, but has a fair bit of work to do over the coming years to get to that stage.

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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6402

                        #56
                        Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                        A few years ago that list was Everitt, Hill, Higgins, Grant, Ward and Tiller!
                        Oi Oi Oi Oi Oi Oi............it was never Tiller!

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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14554

                          #57
                          Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          A few years ago that list was Everitt, Hill, Higgins, Grant, Ward and Tiller!
                          This is the most negative of negative posts I have ever seen.
                          Sockeye seriously Tiller was injury prone, Wards a gun, Hill, Higgins and Grant are still playing seniors and all of them have got us into prelims. Everitts the only one that didnt work so far, thats not a bad record.
                          And this lot coming through has more talent than these combined I think.
                          Just remember getting up so high in the ladder for 3 years means we get the dregs in the draft, we have done pretty well.

                          Where is the Bulldog backing we need now, when times are tough?
                          The club needs positives not throwing in the towel. woe is us crap.
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • SlimPickens
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2929

                            #58
                            Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                            Originally posted by Ozza
                            Oi Oi Oi Oi Oi Oi............it was never Tiller!
                            Hey Tiller is an A grader....in the SANFL
                            "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 67705

                              #59
                              Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              Yep, full agree with that call.

                              Jones has some 'A' grade traits, but has a fair bit of work to do over the coming years to get to that stage.
                              If he replicate the 2nd quarter from last Saturday he may well make it.

                              I have high hopes for Jones. Grabbing marks like he does is a rarity in todays football.
                              Last edited by Bornadog; 31-08-2011, 02:31 PM.
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                              • Greystache
                                WOOF Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9775

                                #60
                                Re: Expect 3 years of misery

                                Originally posted by ledge
                                This is the most negative of negative posts I have ever seen.
                                Sockeye seriously Tiller was injury prone, Wards a gun, Hill, Higgins and Grant are still playing seniors and all of them have got us into prelims. Everitts the only one that didnt work so far, thats not a bad record.
                                And this lot coming through has more talent than these combined I think.
                                Just remember getting up so high in the ladder for 3 years means we get the dregs in the draft, we have done pretty well.

                                Where is the Bulldog backing we need now, when times are tough?
                                The club needs positives not throwing in the towel. woe is us crap.
                                The point is none of them are A graders.

                                Tiller- a his best he would struggle to be a B grader.
                                Ward- B grader who'll be paid like an A grader next year.
                                Hill- has B grade talent but hasn't lived up to it.
                                Higgins- average B grader with delusions of A gradeness.
                                Grant- has A grade talent but C grade work ethic.

                                Of your list of generic young players on the list who has shown they can be an A grader?

                                Libba- yes
                                Jones- looks likely

                                Dahlhaus- looks promising
                                Tutt & Schofield- shown a bit but still unknown
                                Roughead- shows some promise but still a long way off

                                Wallis- absolutely not.
                                Cordy- ditto

                                It's not about writing them off, it's about looking at what they've shown so far to indicate they can be A graders. Just being young doesn't automatically make you good.
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