Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

[Hot_Doggies]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

'IF' Ward goes and we get 2 picks, it would be very tempting to dangle Lake as trade bait to Hawks/Blues etc ...

That could speed up the rebuilding phase.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

I could understand if Cal was only being offered around $150,000 per year by the Dogs and $800,000 by the Sheedys -

I could understand it if we offered $150K and GWS offered $300K - that would make a significant difference to his lifestyle.

What difference will it make to his day-to-day standard of living jumping from $450K to $800K? He'll pay his house off 3 years earlier, perhaps. Maybe he's concerned he'll be stuck driving a Mercedes CLS500 rather than the CL600?

[Murphy'sLore]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Some people here need to take a deep breath. He hasn't signed up for one of Hitler's death squads ffs - he's going to play football for a different club. Let's keep things in perspective.

Having said that, all power to remember54's Mum's voodoo ...

[LostDoggy]

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Bingo. I am starting a Masters next year to completely change careers (to something a little more altruistic), one which will most likely see a reduction in my current salary, let alone taking into CPI over 3 years, education costs, time, etc.

It's not like players don't turn down big money to stay at their current club - even close to home I know we like to deify Granty's loyalty, but Griffen turned down bigger offers from both Adelaide (to be with his family during their difficult time) and Essendon (big club, big crowds) to stay at the Bulldogs. He backs this up with perhaps his best ever year.

As ridiculous as it sounds about a player universally loved by Bulldogs fans, I wonder if we under-appreciate Griffen sometimes.

Thanks Mofra - that's my boy!!!

[LostDoggy]

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It's a family joke that my mother, who's as passionate as they come, has always put a 'curse' on players that leave. It started when she predicted that Dempsey, who left to play in a 'successful club' would never play in a premiership. She kept vowing no player who left us would taste success. It got a bit creepy when Templeton did his knee, and when Brown broke his leg...

Callan..reconsider!!

Loving this, can't wait to see how it all plays out in ??? (what timeframe does your Mum work to?) Hehehe!

[Chicago1]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

It's a family joke that my mother, who's as passionate as they come, has always put a 'curse' on players that leave. It started when she predicted that Dempsey, who left to play in a 'successful club' would never play in a premiership. She kept vowing no player who left us would taste success. It got a bit creepy when Templeton did his knee, and when Brown broke his leg...

Callan..reconsider!!

Which coven does your mother belong to? PLEASE don't tell her I asked that!

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Losing Cal's football ability hurts but we'll get over that quickly enough. What truly riles me is that a local product who has been drafted a few hundred mertres from where he has grown up can so easily make the decision to leave the club. It is such a slap in the face for the Western Bulldogs, and it is an indictment on our leaders for not sufficiently painting the future vision and what critical part of it he would have been. Our posturing seems to have been raising the monetary value of our initial offer but little else.

I remember the time not so long ago that ordinary footballers like Ben Holland and Jade Rawlings were openly and publicly hostile about the prospect of going to the kennel? Those days were permanently gone I thought. But surely losing a homegrown player to the expansion clubs paints us in a similar unattractive light to what we endured in years past. Blaming the system or blaming Cal's greed is a copout. We need to put steps in place to rectify our wider reputation, and to do that we need to have an honest asssessment of our entire operation from top to bottom.

If we were able to attract 50,000 members like Collingwood, Essendon, Hawthorn etc. then your argument might stack up. A lack of financial resources has hindered the Western Bulldogs for the past 50 years. It hasn't been able to attract the corporate support to help retain our better players. Judd, Jolley and Ball's cases are simply a small but important fact of how the system works. I would not have used Jade Rawlings as a good example as he was desperately keen to get to North Melbourne to play with his brother. In the case of Callan Ward it is the system that the AFL has put in place supported by the individual clubs that has led to his departure.

[GVGjr]

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Which coven does your mother belong to? PLEASE don't tell her I asked that!

We do wonder why she can't use her powers for good ( ie bring home a Dogs' flag) instead of evil ...

[chef]

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With respect, I bet 95% of sports people would take $4 million over 5 instead of $1.35 million over 3. The guy is 21, this is a once in a life time opportunity.

I hate losing him as much as every one else and blame the AFL for creating this situation, not Callan Ward.

Ryan Griffen says hi, he turned down a hell of a lot of money from GC, Essendon and Adelaide to stay loyal. Ward deserves all the blame IMO.

So you would move to Western Sydney for double your current wage BAD?

[Topdog]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

With respect, I bet 95% of sports people would take $4 million over 5 instead of $1.35 million over 3. The guy is 21, this is a once in a life time opportunity.

I hate losing him as much as every one else and blame the AFL for creating this situation, not Callan Ward.

And 98% of sports people are idiots.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

an extra $500k per year for four, I would take that.

It's not as simple as that.

Anyone living in the the real word knows the difference between $50k and $100k is bigger than $450k and $950k lifestyle wise. Fair enough that you would take that and run, just that I find it insulting that everyone automatically assumes everyone would. I can't keep track of people who say it, as if you wouldn't take the money and run. Most people do think that but I guess most people also can't stand their jobs.


$50K = below average and $100k = just starting to be a high income earner
$450k = very, very rich and $950 = very, very, very, very rich

We are a battered wife of a footy club though so thank you so very much for tolerating us for this long Callan!

[SonofScray]

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It's not as simple as that.

Anyone living in the the real word knows the difference between $50k and $100k is bigger than $450k and $950k lifestyle wise. Fair enough that you would take that and run, just that I find it insulting that everyone automatically assumes everyone would. I can't keep track of people who say it, as if you wouldn't take the money and run. Most people do think that but I guess most people also can't stand their jobs.


$50K = below average and $100k = just starting to be a high income earner
$450k = very, very rich and $950 = very, very, very, very rich

We are a battered wife of a footy club though so thank you so very much for tolerating us for this long Callan!

That is how I read it as well. Got to say, I am a bit personally offended by that line as well. I choose to work in a role that that draws considerably less than what I could command in private practice or even in the public sector. I do it because I get some joy out of it, but also because I feel it is the right thing to be doing by the community I work in. Not asking to be given pats on the back for it, but really people who suggest "how couldn't you take the money!?!?" I feel are essentially implying I am an idiot for making that choice.

Might just me being a bit sensitive but I must say I am taken aback by how many of our own fans are just accepting that no one would ever make the choice to stay at the Club over money.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

I could understand it if we offered $150K and GWS offered $300K - that would make a significant difference to his lifestyle.

What difference will it make to his day-to-day standard of living jumping from $450K to $800K? He'll pay his house off 3 years earlier, perhaps. Maybe he's concerned he'll be stuck driving a Mercedes CLS500 rather than the CL600?

Good analogy SS.

Peopl are saying 'would you leave for $500k more per year'. It is so relative to what you're earning.

I would switch over for $500k extra but that would take me from an average income earner to a very, very, very rich man. For Callan it's very, very, very rich vs very, very, very, very, very rich.

[Missing Dog]

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If Ward suffered a career ending injury within his next contract there are no further offers so in the context of things and taking into account the risks associated with his profession I think 450k and 900k is a significant salary sacrifice.

Callan Ward's industry is extremely competitive and cut throat, the moment he reaches a certain age or performance decline he will no longer be able to command the same salary. The final factor that people don't truly appreciate is that this is a unique set of circumstances where many stars have aligned to receive this contract and he happens to be in the right place at the right time. We're not talking about a rival club offering him 600k, we're talking about a new franchise with an open cheque book.

You forget that you have the ability to do your job for as long as you like and have the option of chasing dollars later in life if your circumstances or mindset changes. I understand people's decisions for remaining loyal and I admire those who accept significantly less than they could earn elsewhere but at the same time I do not begrudge anyone for taking up the offer or think any less of them, it is their right to look after their own well being and financial security first and foremost. I know I'm in the minority but sometimes we forget that we're talking about a 21 year old boy who with one decision has the ability to guarantee his financial future.

Good luck to him.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

If Ward suffered a career ending injury within his next contract there are no further offers so in the context of things and taking into account the risks associated with his profession I think 450k and 900k is a significant salary sacrifice.

Callan Ward's industry is extremely competitive and cut throat, the moment he reaches a certain age or performance decline he will no longer be able to command the same salary. The final factor that people don't truly appreciate is that this is a unique set of circumstances where many stars have aligned to receive this contract and he happens to be in the right place at the right time. We're not talking about a rival club offering him 600k, we're talking about a new franchise with an open cheque book.

You forget that you have the ability to do your job for as long as you like and have the option of chasing dollars later in life if your circumstances or mindset changes. I understand people's decisions for remaining loyal and I admire those who accept significantly less than they could earn elsewhere but at the same time I do not begrudge anyone for taking up the offer or think any less of them, it is their right to look after their own well being and financial security first and foremost. I know I'm in the minority but sometimes we forget that we're talking about a 21 year old boy who with one decision has the ability to guarantee his financial future.

Good luck to him.

Are you so sure that he will be better off up there? It's not what you make that counts, it's a complicated set of factors that contribute to 'wealth'. Remains to be seen if he is actually 'better off' in this deal.