Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

[stefoid]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Yet another massive fail by our general manager of footy ops. I don't want to hear about 'the system' from the Bulldogs today. So many better players than Cal were dangled the carrot and decided to stay at their respective clubs. This shit stain of a situation is a reflection on our leaders and their inability to sell the club vision to one of our best young players, pure and simple.

And some people think a new coach and gameplan is going to magically transport us back up the ladder. We are going nowhere with such an imcompetent buffoon heading our footy dept.

I think youre being naive. Which better players refused? The ones that played for Collingwood? Collingwood has money to burn - Thomas etc... will be very well looked after by the pies after they retire, and thats the start and end of it. they have the cash.

You think Ward would go to GWS if we had the money that collingwood has to 'see him right'? Of course not.

Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon and West Coast wont lose any players to the expansion teams because they can afford to match GWS offers, one way or another.

[Sedat]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Our head of football operations is directly responsible for player contract negotiations. This is a failure that can be directly attributed to Fantasia. Not sure how there can be any debate about this. Player contract negotiations and trade week negotiations are his Grand Final, and in his last 3 GF's he's lost by 100+ points.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Am I the only one who cares more about the compensation level we get than Callan leaving?
At $800k pa we'd have to be damn close to Tier 1 - after getting unders for Harbrow last year, we deserve it.


Not sure how long it will take before Cal get scalled "Callan Whore'd" in some parts either

we will get 1 late first round pick. nothing more. the AFL will screw us over with the compo again. the fact that you have to "make noise" in order to get more compo is ridiculous. there should be rules set in stone that determines exactly what a club will get. tough times ahead.

[choconmientay]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Dustin Martin, Matty Kreuzer, Marc Murphy, Pendlebury, Thomas, Swan, Andrew Swallow, etc... all stayed for less money than they would have commanded on the open market. Cal Ward did not. For this decision the buck stops with Fantasia, Garlick and Smorgon. They have failed miserably to sell the dream of staying at the club, to an inner western suburbs lad! Embarrassing result for the club's reputation any way you want to slice it and dice it.

All of the players you named are playing in a team which their PS window are wide open (Collingwood, Carlton) or they are beginning to enter the PS window (Tigers, North). This does give players a big incentive to stay with their team.

The Callan Ward decision may have to do with the way we underachieved our goal this year and the outlook for the next few years. The dogs will start the rebuilding phase which we will be struggling until we get core strengths into our young players. Callan will not be part of a PS winning team within the next 3-5 years, so why not moving on and playing in a struggling team and earning 300.000 more?!

I am disappointed but can understand the decision. I guess, I wrote him off already midway through the season so I do not feel bitter.

[Bornadog]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Our head of football operations is directly responsible for player contract negotiations. This is a failure that can be directly attributed to Fantasia. Not sure how there can be any debate about this. Player contract negotiations and trade week negotiations are his Grand Final, and in his last 3 GF's he's lost by 100+ points.

I still can't believe we have lost Harbrow and now Ward, yet Collingwood can hang on to Daisy, plus all their stars. I know they are staying at a more successful club, but as you say, you have to sell the vision, mateship, family etc etc.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

The Callan Ward decision may have to do with the way we underachieved our goal this year and the outlook for the next few years. The dogs will start the rebuilding phase which we will be struggling until we get core strength into our young players. Callan will not be part of a PS winning team within the next 3-5 years, so why not moving on and playing in a struggling team and earning 300.000 more?!

well if he bases his decision on that it says a lot about him and his future. He's gonna have a rotten time at GWS if he cant lead a group of kids through a rebuilding phase and into the finals. He will fizzle out in the GWS midfield with no Boyd, Griff, Cooney to share the load. Scully? He has not proved anything

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Our head of football operations is directly responsible for player contract negotiations. This is a failure that can be directly attributed to Fantasia. Not sure how there can be any debate about this. Player contract negotiations and trade week negotiations are his Grand Final, and in his last 3 GF's he's lost by 100+ points.

So what are Fantasia's blunders?

3 year deal for Djerrkura after he only played 3 games for Geelong
3 deal deal for Hooper after playing 1 game
Missing out on the likes of Barlow and Faulks
Harbrow gone to GC
Ward gone to GWS
Lakes contract negotiations - being strung out for so long
The glut of players who are 28+ and less than 21...
Not trading Josh Hill when he had some value

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

well if he bases his decision on that it says a lot about him and his future. He's gonna have a rotten time at GWS if he cant lead a group of kids through a rebuilding phase and into the finals. He will fizzle out in the GWS midfield with no Boyd, Griff, Cooney to share the load. Scully? He has not proved anything

Ward and Scully will earn every extra dollar that they are paid

They will regulary be thumped by 80+ points

Both will get tagged, and cop the majority of the physical and verbal treatment from the oposition teams players

I hope they also both enjoy playing in front of home crowds of 10-11k

And for Callan, all for an extra $150k extra per season - he could have been given a decent job by a Bulldogs sponsor in Melbourne which could have delivered that

[Ozza]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Ward and Scully will earn every extra dollar that they are paid

They will regulary be thumped by 80+ points

Both will get tagged, and cop the majority of the physical and verbal treatment from the oposition teams players

I hope they also both enjoy playing in front of home crowds of 10-11k

And for Callan, all for an extra $150k extra per season - he could have been given a decent job by a Bulldogs sponsor in Melbourne which could have delivered that

I don't remember hearing anything being offered to Callan in that way. Perhaps it was behind the scenes - but it doesn't appear to be something our club can make happen.

[stefoid]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

I still can't believe we have lost Harbrow and now Ward, yet Collingwood can hang on to Daisy, plus all their stars. I know they are staying at a more successful club, but as you say, you have to sell the vision, mateship, family etc etc.

Its got nothing to do with the 'vision' of the club, thats a load of BS. Its about the money, money, money, money, money, money.

Some clubs have it, we dont. Fantasia may be the best football manager in the workld or the worst -- I wouldnt know, but hanging Wards decision on him is ludicrous.

The only anomoly in Sedats list of players is Martin, who Im not sure that Richmond has the means to pay off. At the time he re-signed, I am told Martin was living in Greg Millers house, a young kid from wherever with stars in his eyes and Greg Millers arm draped around his shoulder whispering in his ear. Ill bet he regrets it now.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Trying hard not to be bitter and twisted here coz I really thought (hoped, dreamed) that Callan would show us his true colours and stay.

Gutted, disappointed, angry, etc., and if it's true, then he shouldn't play on Saturday.

I understand this is his "job" but you know IMO, it's just a sad, sad state of affairs when the almighty dollar is the only motivation for someone to make a change. Maybe I'm just an old "fuddy-duddy" but mateship, loyalty and achieving a legendry-like status as a western suburbs boy who stayed around far outweight bucks in the pocket for me.......

[Bornadog]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Its got nothing to do with the 'vision' of the club, thats a load of BS. Its about the money, money, money, money, money, money.

Some clubs have it, we dont. .

What is BS is your post. If it was money then why didn't Daisy sign up for the million odd per year?

[cinder]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

I understand this is his "job" but you know IMO, it's just a sad, sad state of affairs when the almighty dollar is the only motivation for someone to make a change. Maybe I'm just an old "fuddy-duddy" but mateship, loyalty and achieving a legendry-like status as a western suburbs boy who stayed around far outweight bucks in the pocket for me.......

Yup. Likewise. Whoever started the other thread about following AFL not being worth it could be right.

[choconmientay]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

well if he bases his decision on that it says a lot about him and his future. He's gonna have a rotten time at GWS if he cant lead a group of kids through a rebuilding phase and into the finals. He will fizzle out in the GWS midfield with no Boyd, Griff, Cooney to share the load. Scully? He has not proved anything

Yeah, That's always the case with young peoples. (Just remember Callan in only 21 years young). They made decision which they may regret later on but I think Callan will only see the big carrot for now and won't think about what will happen next year.

That is why I agreed with Sedat that the club has failed big time to sell the dream to Callan. He could choose to follow the footstep of Grant and could become one of the club greatest as well. What a shame!

[Maddog37]

Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

Our head of football operations is directly responsible for player contract negotiations. This is a failure that can be directly attributed to Fantasia. Not sure how there can be any debate about this. Player contract negotiations and trade week negotiations are his Grand Final, and in his last 3 GF's he's lost by 100+ points.

Sedat I assume you are a paid up member and you are obviously passionate. Rather than continually run an anti-Fantasia web campaign why not go down to the club and confront him. It will save time and thread space.......