Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

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  • Greystache
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    #61
    Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    I believe it should be the players decision not the fans or the match committee's.
    If the players don't want him on the field then he shouldn't play.
    We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The players don't play for the supporters, as keeps getting said, it's a job to them.

    If we drop Ward his mates will get upset, yet if we play him the supporters will boo him, which will upset his mates.

    The better option is to not play him and at least externally appear to make a stand.
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    • Ozza
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Mar 2008
      • 6402

      #62
      Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

      Originally posted by stefoid
      Its got nothing to do with the 'vision' of the club, thats a load of BS. Its about the money, money, money, money, money, money.

      .
      We all know he left for the money - but what Bornadog is saying is - that we know we couldn't match the money - so what we had to do, was get in first and sell the vision of the club to be able to try and bridge the gap.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #63
        Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

        I am trying so hard to be fair to Callan and not hate him for leaving us, obviously I can understand that he would not get anywhere near that sort of money from the dogs but how about the wealth you gain from the friendships with your team mates and the unwavering support from the fans. I don't know how to feel about this right now, will see when Callan comes out and does the right thing and announces it. I also think it would be a bad idea to play him on the wknd, for the club and for him.

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        • Missing Dog
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8501

          #64
          Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

          Originally posted by Dog House
          And for Callan, all for an extra $150k extra per season - he could have been given a decent job by a Bulldogs sponsor in Melbourne which could have delivered that
          Perhaps if we had someone clever negotiating the contract this may have happened but clearly the dollars didn't compare. Clearly the vision and dream of the club wasn't sold well enough especially when you take into account the fact that he is a home grown product with his family and friends around the corner which is more of an indictment on our negotiators behalf than anything.

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          • Desipura
            WOOF Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 4344

            #65
            Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

            Originally posted by Greystache
            We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The players don't play for the supporters, as keeps getting said, it's a job to them.

            If we drop Ward his mates will get upset, yet if we play him the supporters will boo him, which will upset his mates.
            The better option is to not play him and at least externally appear to make a stand.
            I saw Boyd being over critical to Ward on the weekend, that told me that he is pissed off with him that he is still playing even though he is heading off to GWS.

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            • The Coon Dog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7579

              #66
              Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

              Originally posted by Maddog37
              Sedat I assume you are a paid up member and you are obviously passionate. Rather than continually run an anti-Fantasia web campaign why not go down to the club and confront him. It will save time and thread space.......
              The alternative would be to challenge Sedat's views with facts in support of James Fantasia, something no one seems prepared to do.
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              • Sockeye Salmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6365

                #67
                Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                The alternative would be to challenge Sedat's views with facts in support of James Fantasia, something no one seems prepared to do.
                Can't be done?

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #68
                  Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                  Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                  The alternative would be to challenge Sedat's views with facts in support of James Fantasia, something no one seems prepared to do.
                  Agree. I'm not sure it would matter who was in James' position with this one. I'm guessing that they've tried to talk to Cal's management all year only to be told that they would like to wait until the end of the year to discuss contracts. Not much you can do if that is the case.

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14989

                    #69
                    Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                    Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                    The alternative would be to challenge Sedat's views with facts in support of James Fantasia, something no one seems prepared to do.
                    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                    Can't be done?
                    It would help if we knew what Fantasia has achieved at his time in the club, which is something that even the die-hard supporters wouldn't know.

                    He must be a mute.
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66860

                      #70
                      Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                      Originally posted by Desipura
                      I saw Boyd being over critical to Ward on the weekend, that told me that he is pissed off with him that he is still playing even though he is heading off to GWS.
                      Yeah Ward looked like he was going through the motions.
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                      • LongWait
                        WOOF Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 936

                        #71
                        Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        It would help if we knew what Fantasia has achieved at his time in the club, which is something that even the die-hard supporters wouldn't know.

                        He must be a mute.
                        I imagine that most of Fantasia's best achievements cannot be publicly disclosed. Think about his role and whether we eally want everything he is responsible for completely disclosed. Fantasia is on a hiding to nothing and has become the Eagleton of the management (ie the whipping boy.)

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15477

                          #72
                          Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                          Originally posted by LongWait
                          I imagine that most of Fantasia's best achievements cannot be publicly disclosed. Think about his role and whether we eally want everything he is responsible for completely disclosed. Fantasia is on a hiding to nothing and has become the Eagleton of the management (ie the whipping boy.)
                          I thought that was Eade?

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44735

                            #73
                            Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                            Originally posted by Desipura
                            I saw Boyd being over critical to Ward on the weekend, that told me that he is pissed off with him that he is still playing even though he is heading off to GWS.
                            I was at the Frankston v Williamstown game on Sunday and Matty Boyd and Ward were walking around with each other all day....Who knows, maybe just a smoke screen.
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                            • LongWait
                              WOOF Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 936

                              #74
                              Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              I thought that was Eade?
                              Not on here he hasn't been. This site has all but deified Eade!

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #75
                                Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                                Originally posted by LongWait
                                I imagine that most of Fantasia's best achievements cannot be publicly disclosed. Think about his role and whether we eally want everything he is responsible for completely disclosed. Fantasia is on a hiding to nothing and has become the Eagleton of the management (ie the whipping boy.)
                                At least Eagleton kicked a goal or two every now and then.
                                What were Fantasias best achievements? Getting Sherman.

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