Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

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  • Murphy'sLore
    WOOF Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 2085

    Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

    Originally posted by bornadog
    The whole Ward saga is not Wards fault, its the fault of the AFL allowing this sort of money to be thrown at young kids like Ward and Scully. Its also the failure of our club to have not convinced him to stay.

    What is poor Ward to do at the age of 21 being offered $800,000 per annum. He has to weight that up with leaving his family and friends, his team mates, his surroundings and he doesn't even know who will be his new coach if he were to stay.

    If he takes the money, he will be at a start up club under Sheedy, the coach he looked up to as an Essendon supporter, probably with great facilities, more staff, more spending on the football department. He will be in a team that will endure some big floggings and probably won't play finals for at least 3 years.

    At age 21 these are big decisions and all Bulldog supporters should understand if he leaves its a once in a lifetime opportunity. Of course as Bulldog supporters we have every right to boo him next year.
    Me three.

    Very disappointed but can't be bitter at Callan -- just furious with the AFL.

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    • Maddog37
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3132

      Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

      My emotions swing daily on this one.

      I think until we see Cal talk about his decision it will be hard to decide how you view him going forward.

      I understand the cash side of things but still hate the idea of anyone turning their back on the Dogs.

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      • Nuggety Back Pocket
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 2064

        Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

        Originally posted by Sedat
        They aren't made of money down at Arden St but Swallow stayed. Kreuze and Murphy did likewise at a club with bigger debts than ours. Forget the Judd visy thing for a second, by offloading Fev they ensured Kreuze, Gibbs and Murphy would be paid in accordance to ward off the expansion clubs. By contrast we plunge into salary cap strife by buckling to Lake's top end demands. Not smart list management I'd have thought
        The blame for Callan Ward's departure rests solely with the AFL in their decision to allow GWS open recruitment without imposing restrictions like length of service, age etc to protect clubs like the Western Bulldogs being targeted. Melbourne is in a similar problem with the potential loss of Scully. On the question of Lake there has been little argument on his contract dollars increase coming on the top of two All Australian selections.
        All roads appear to lead to blaming Fantasia for the loss of Ward but knowing David Smorgan's standing, I am sure he and the Board would have done everything possible to retain his services. I would like to see Ward play at the weekend and who knows one day we might see him back in the red, white and blue.

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18991

          Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

          Originally posted by bornadog
          The whole Ward saga is not Wards fault, its the fault of the AFL allowing this sort of money to be thrown at young kids like Ward and Scully. Its also the failure of our club to have not convinced him to stay.

          .
          The clubs signed off on it - so they're as much to blame.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15472

            Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            The clubs signed off on it - so they're as much to blame.
            They were never in a position to go against the AFL on this one.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66843

              Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              The clubs signed off on it - so they're as much to blame.
              Originally posted by Mantis
              They were never in a position to go against the AFL on this one.
              Yes all AFL Clubs agreed to the terms of the new club coming in, but as Mantis says, did we have much choice with the bully boys from AFL HQ?
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              • SlimPickens
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2010
                • 2929

                Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                I know it won't but does the fact we have now lost two players to the expansion clubs, play any part in the compensation?
                "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                • Greystache
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9775

                  Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                  Originally posted by SlimPickens
                  I know it won't but does the fact we have now lost two players to the expansion clubs, play any part in the compensation?
                  I think you're being a bit hopeful there mate.
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                  • Murphy'sLore
                    WOOF Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 2085

                    Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                    Let's all march on AFL House and demand what we're due.

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                    • Doc26
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3087

                      Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                      Originally posted by SlimPickens
                      I know it won't but does the fact we have now lost two players to the expansion clubs, play any part in the compensation?
                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      I think you're being a bit hopeful there mate.
                      Maybe hopeful but should still form part of the Club's case in lobbying for a fair deal. We must be on the front foot in pushing a claim for losing two players that we have invested something like 8 years combined development in and where both had moved beyond simply being speculative opportunities to locks in the best half of our starting 22.

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18991

                        Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        They were never in a position to go against the AFL on this one.
                        If they could rewind it now i reckon they might argue a bit harder.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18991

                          Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                          Originally posted by Doc26
                          Maybe hopeful but should still form part of the Club's case in lobbying for a fair deal. We must be on the front foot in pushing a claim for losing two players that we have invested something like 8 years combined development in and where both had moved beyond simply being speculative opportunities to locks in the best half of our starting 22.
                          Something better than Justin Sherman would be nice!
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • choconmientay
                            WOOF Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1312

                            Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            Something better than Justin Sherman would be nice!

                            Yeah ... better in both ... skills and characters.
                            It always seems impossible until it's done. Nelson Mandela

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                            • SlimPickens
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2929

                              Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                              Originally posted by Greystache
                              I think you're being a bit hopeful there mate.
                              Thinking if we kick up a stink and point at the fact that we have now lost 2 potentially very good footballers (not to mention Cal will be a leader at GWS). We might possible get him lifted to category 1 in terms of compensation.
                              "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                              • Topdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7471

                                Re: Callan Ward jumps Bulldogs ship to join GWS

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                If they could rewind it now i reckon they might argue a bit harder.
                                and the AFL would reject it a bit harder too. The clubs had 0 power on this one.

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