Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14974

    #76
    Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

    Originally posted by Chops
    Why do people think Dimma isn't the man for the job?
    Maybe they've met him.

    He'd be a very tough President (which may actually be a good thing for us) I'm not sure how easy he would be to deal with. Face to face "he makes Dermot Brereton sound modest & humble".

    He did back off when asked to by Garlick, so perhaps that's a positive.

    A shame that Susan Alberti doesn't seem to want it.
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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      #77
      Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

      Originally posted by Chops
      The way I read it. Dimma has more passion now for the club than Smorgan has displayed in the last 12 months. Can't be a bad thing.
      Yep this is how I read it also. Smorgan wanted to step down a while ago, but nobody wanted to step up. No idea if Dimma is the right man for the job (don't know enough), but he's certainly passionate enough at least.

      We do need a change.

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      • Murphy'sLore
        WOOF Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 2085

        #78
        Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

        Just heard Dimma on SEN denying any interest in taking over. So much for that then.

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        • BulldogBelle
          WOOF Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 5284

          #79
          Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

          I can't believe how some of our more experienced posters definitively rule out Dimma as a good president as if they have personally dealt with him.
          The answer is we are not sure, but I subscribe to the theory that a change is not all together bad, and if he doesn't work out, then at least we'd have shaken up the sediments of our footy club that had settled in the twilight of Smorgon's presidency.

          For those that hate how we'e been AFL lap dogs in the past and have done our best to shun confrontation with them (stadium deals, Minson mum rape debacle, etc, etc), I think you will find Dimma will provide a point of difference.

          Also, Dimma is a lot more successful than people think. His business interests are not publicly listed and so most people's knowledge of his wealth and influence would be no greater than what they read in the paper. Lets just say that he has a bit more width and breadth than 'pasta' as one poster put it and he also has more strings to his bow than running a restaurant.

          I have no issues with his ability to mobilise people and resources.
          The only area that I'm unsure of is whether he can generate media about the club and keep us in the mind of the public... (then again, not sure to what extent a president is responsible for this).

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21840

            #80
            Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

            Originally posted by Chops
            The way I read it. Dimma has more passion now for the club than Smorgan has displayed in the last 12 months. Can't be a bad thing.
            Originally posted by bulldogsman
            Yep this is how I read it also. Smorgan wanted to step down a while ago, but nobody wanted to step up. No idea if Dimma is the right man for the job (don't know enough), but he's certainly passionate enough at least.

            We do need a change.
            I'd be a little cautious of measuring passion by what one might say or what is reported in the media.

            Agree that Smorgon has been quieter this year, though I believe that was a conscious change from those previous.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #81
              Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

              Originally posted by Mofra
              Maybe they've met him.

              He'd be a very tough President (which may actually be a good thing for us) I'm not sure how easy he would be to deal with. Face to face "he makes Dermot Brereton sound modest & humble".

              He did back off when asked to by Garlick, so perhaps that's a positive.

              A shame that Susan Alberti doesn't seem to want it.
              He is not like that at all. Very softly spoken and far from an "out there up front" sort of person.

              He is completely the opposite to Smorgon who is such an impressive handler of the media and an excellent public speaker.

              I would see Dimma as a back room type of operator rather than being the out front spokesman for the club.

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21840

                #82
                Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

                Originally posted by Chops
                Without seeing him in the role not sure you can judge that. I believe Peter Gordon had little to no experience outside Slater & Gordon when he started.
                That's like saying give the guy a scalpel and let him prove he can be a surgeon!

                OK, maybe that's a little dramatic. All I was suggesting was that beyond running successful restaurants we're not sure about his business acumen. Agree that Gordon was untried, though I would hazard a guess that one might be exposed to more dirverse business in his chosen profession than a restaurateur might be.

                I suppose the most important thing for an inexperienced president to do is surround himself with excellent business minds, that can work cohesively towards a common good. If Dimma can do that, and bring an entrepreneurial element to the task then great.
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • LongWait
                  WOOF Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 936

                  #83
                  Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

                  I think a few people have missed the point that Smorgon has volunteered to step down and agrees that a change at the top will be good. David has also said he is very open to standing down sooner rather than later provided the Board supports the proposed new President.

                  Whether Dimmatina is the right person to be our next President is an entirely different matter. Do we really have any idea what he stands for (apart from a stand-alone VFL team); what his Board experience is; who are the faceless Business people who will join him on the Board? Lots of questions and no answers at the moment.

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                  • dadsgirl16
                    Draftee
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 732

                    #84
                    Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

                    He has just been on SEN...says The Age report is incorrect

                    Has been interviewed by sub committee and thats it

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                    • Cyberdoggie
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 2859

                      #85
                      Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

                      Originally posted by dadsgirl16
                      He has just been on SEN...says The Age report is incorrect

                      Has been interviewed by sub committee and thats it
                      Yeah he said the Hun article was accurate and the Age wasn't.

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #86
                        Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

                        Originally posted by LongWait
                        I think a few people have missed the point that Smorgon has volunteered to step down and agrees that a change at the top will be good. David has also said he is very open to standing down sooner rather than later provided the Board supports the proposed new President.

                        Whether Dimmatina is the right person to be our next President is an entirely different matter. Do we really have any idea what he stands for (apart from a stand-alone VFL team); what his Board experience is; who are the faceless Business people who will join him on the Board? Lots of questions and no answers at the moment.
                        What does he stand for? Played 130 games for us. Prepared to sink his money into the club. Successful businessman. Early days, but a lot to like there.
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                        • SlimPickens
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2929

                          #87
                          Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

                          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                          What does he stand for? Played 130 games for us. Prepared to sink his money into the club. Successful businessman. Early days, but a lot to like there.
                          Is he really prepared to sink his money in however? It's always been smoke and mirrors with dimma, I'm in the i'll believe it when I see it camp.
                          "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66815

                            #88
                            Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

                            Originally posted by SlimPickens
                            Is he really prepared to sink his money in however? It's always been smoke and mirrors with dimma, I'm in the i'll believe it when I see it camp.
                            Why do you say smoke and mirrors? is that from what you read in the paper?
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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #89
                              Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              Agree that Smorgon has been quieter this year, though I believe that was a conscious change from those previous.
                              Well if that's a conscious change then that's worked very poorly.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #90
                                Re: Smorgon Leadership Challenge update

                                Originally posted by jeemak
                                That's like saying give the guy a scalpel and let him prove he can be a surgeon!

                                OK, maybe that's a little dramatic. All I was suggesting was that beyond running successful restaurants we're not sure about his business acumen. Agree that Gordon was untried, though I would hazard a guess that one might be exposed to more dirverse business in his chosen profession than a restaurateur might be.

                                I suppose the most important thing for an inexperienced president to do is surround himself with excellent business minds, that can work cohesively towards a common good. If Dimma can do that, and bring an entrepreneurial element to the task then great.
                                Except he ain't doing surgery. Frank Costa was a fruitier yet one of the most successful presidents of recent times.
                                What experience did Steve Kernahan have?
                                Smorgon had no experience as a football president either.

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