Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

[Greystache]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

Is this is accurate. I thought Mulligan was out of contract.

I thought that was the case too. Shocking list management if true!

[LongWait]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

Seriously Bate?? Im almost ready to give up on the year already.

Also LongWait the criticism of Fantasia has been happening long before Eades departure and if you want reasons for it look no further than last years trades and signings. We are stuck with Hooper and DJ on the main list for another 2 years.

Well perhaps you need to get your facts correct before you shoot your mouth off about our player contract management:

1. Hooper was offered a two year base salary (not three years as you claim) immediately after he was selected to play in a final for the club. Hardly outrageous.

2. DJ was signed on a three year deal for pretty much what he could have expected for a two year deal - contrary to your claims, it was a bloody excellent contract signing, getting the third year for virtually free.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

Well perhaps you need to get your facts correct before you shoot your mouth off about our player contract management:

1. Hooper was offered a two year base salary (not three years as you claim) immediately after he was selected to play in a final for the club. Hardly outrageous.

2. DJ was signed on a three year deal for pretty much what he could have expected for a two year deal - contrary to your claims, it was a bloody excellent contract signing, getting the third year for virtually free.

Hooper shouldn't have got one year. It was outrageous signing him in the first place.
Dj was about to be delisted. Trading for him then giving him 3 years was plain stupidity.

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

Can anyone clarify whether or not Tom Williams was signed for 3 years recently?

[LongWait]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

Hooper shouldn't have got one year. It was outrageous signing him in the first place.
Dj was about to be delisted. Trading for him then giving him 3 years was plain stupidity.

Playing Hooper for the first time in a final was more outrageous than signing him to a basic two year deal. The MC must have rated Hooper. It was not outrageous to promote him if the MC felt that they wanted him to play the small forward role.

On what basis do you make the claim that DJ was about to be delisted? I was told by a player manager from one of the big stables (not DJ's manager) that his signing was a terrific deal by the club and that he would never have agreed had he been DJ's manager.

Fair dinkum there is so much crap posted on here that is supposition or opinion that is passed off as fact. Blokes are trashed and ridiculed based on guesswork, bullshit and personal grudges. No-one that posts on this board is in a position to make some of the claims and assessments that are freely bandied about as gospel and undeniable.

[KT31]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

Can anyone clarify whether or not Tom Williams was signed for 3 years recently?

Remember reading he was about to put pen to paper, but that was some time back.
Have not heard of anything since.

[Bornadog]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

Remember reading he was about to put pen to paper, but that was some time back.
Have not heard of anything since.

There is an article announcing 8 players have re-signed including Tommy, but doesn't say for how long.

link

[LostDoggy]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

Playing Hooper for the first time in a final was more outrageous than signing him to a basic two year deal. The MC must have rated Hooper. It was not outrageous to promote him if the MC felt that they wanted him to play the small forward role.

Your memory is short. We were running on empty at the time for players. 1 game then dropped for Hahn who was finished too.

On what basis do you make the claim that DJ was about to be delisted? I was told by a player manager from one of the big stables (not DJ's manager) that his signing was a terrific deal by the club and that he would never have agreed had he been DJ's manager.

On the basis that the pick we gave Geelong they didn't use. Tells me they didn't care too much about it.
Player managers are as reliable as Real estate agents and 2nd hand car salemen.

[anfo27]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

[QUOTE=Mofra;246298]Hooper has only 12 months left?
We also have Mulligan for another 12 months.[/QUOTE]

What? Surely you are mistaken? He is the worst player ever to have played the game and we gave him 2 years. I had his name crossed off months ago that I even forgot who this Mulligan character is. This signing is a deal breaker and someone needs to get their papers stamped for this.
I guess if we have a shocker next year and need to tank we can play him on their best forward.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

I doubt Mulligan would be contracted he was upgraded at the end of 2009 surley we didnt give him 3 years he i a hack of the highest order.

[divvydan]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

From http://www.aflq.com.au/index.php?id=424

On Mulligan:

In 2009 he again found himself playing in the Williamstown Seconds, but this time at fullback. He did enough to convince senior coach Rodney Eade that he had the capabilities to play at the highest level in this sort of role, and not only was he elevated to the senior list for 2010 but he was given a two-year contract to go with it.

http://www.aflq.com.au/index.php?id=424

[Topdog]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

Well perhaps you need to get your facts correct before you shoot your mouth off about our player contract management:

1. Hooper was offered a two year base salary (not three years as you claim) immediately after he was selected to play in a final for the club. Hardly outrageous.

2. DJ was signed on a three year deal for pretty much what he could have expected for a two year deal - contrary to your claims, it was a bloody excellent contract signing, getting the third year for virtually free.

Yep and I admitted that mistake about 10 min after the first post, it doesn't excuse the fact that he shouldn't have been elevated.

LOL which other club was chomping at the bit to sign DJ. Bloody excellent contract signing would indicate that we beat several others for the mans signature. We did not, Geelong were more than happy to let him go but we went out of our way to throw away a draft pick for him. Lunacy, not brilliant.

[macca]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

why is mulligan not used as a ruckman at 201 cm?

[hujsh]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

Well perhaps you need to get your facts correct before you shoot your mouth off about our player contract management:

1. Hooper was offered a two year base salary (not three years as you claim) immediately after he was selected to play in a final for the club. Hardly outrageous.

2. DJ was signed on a three year deal for pretty much what he could have expected for a two year deal - contrary to your claims, it was a bloody excellent contract signing, getting the third year for virtually free.

For Williamstown. Not so great for the Bulldogs at the moment (would love to be proven wrong)

[Mantis]

Re: Fantasia on SEN 12.25pm today (13/10/11)

why is mulligan not used as a ruckman at 201 cm?

Because he was no good in this role in the Willi 2's.