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  • KT31
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jul 2008
    • 5454

    Re: Rookie Draft

    Originally posted by G-Mo77
    I was just watching Catch up with Crameri on the Website.

    It looks like Jong in the background during the interview. That may have some relevance on the Rookie Draft. It could be someone else but it does look like him.
    Good to see Ayce's hands have in improved, I'm not sure he meant to drop the weights.
    It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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    • G-Mo77
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Apr 2007
      • 9873

      Re: Rookie Draft

      Originally posted by M.R.M
      Yep, in the Red. Reckon he's survived?
      Well he's a good chance you'd think. When does the rookie list need to be finalised?

      Originally posted by KT31
      Good to see Ayce's hands have in improved, I'm not sure he meant to drop the weights.

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      • soupman
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2007
        • 5091

        Re: Rookie Draft

        So it appears all the rookies have been retained. Jong is in Arizona, as is Redpath I am led to believe. The Bulldogs twitter posted a picture with Greenwood in it at training today and Goodes has been officially promoted.

        Austin is the only one who I have yet to see anything solid about, but you would imagine as the best performed of the rookies in the second half of the year he is being kept on as well.
        Last edited by soupman; 07-11-2013, 09:18 AM. Reason: Typing on an iPhone aaaaaaargh
        I should leave it alone but you're not right

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15210

          Re: Rookie Draft

          Originally posted by soupaman
          So it appears all the rookies have been retained. Jong is in Arizona, as is Redpath I am led to believe. The Bulldogs twitter posted a picture with Greenwood in it at training today and Goodes has been officially promoted.

          Austin is the only one who I have yet to see anything solid about, but you would imagine as the best performed of the rookies in the second half of the year he is being kept on as well.
          I would have prefered to elevate Austin rather than Goodes. Will be interesting to see what happens over the next 12 months.

          I would imgaine quite a few list changes at the end of 2014.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Rookie Draft

            I don't really understand any of this. But I'm not in on the master plan.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • soupman
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2007
              • 5091

              Re: Rookie Draft

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              I don't really understand any of this. But I'm not in on the master plan.
              I think the key to it is that you have to really not rate this draft.
              I should leave it alone but you're not right

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Rookie Draft

                Originally posted by soupaman
                I think the key to it is that you have to really not rate this draft.
                In isolation, I can see that line of thinking.

                From my personal perspective, I can list many good pick ups in the late ND and RD. I would be prepared to gamble losing Greenwood and Redpath for the chance at such a player. From what I have seen live and on TV, I just don't how they've managed another contract.

                But I see what you say, they must think the talent pool stops very early in the ND.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Maddog37
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3132

                  Re: Rookie Draft

                  Week draft and timing of contracts would be part of the issue. Maybe they also want to give them a chance in our own team as they have displayed a hunger to work and have had injury setbacks.

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                  • soupman
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5091

                    Re: Rookie Draft

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    In isolation, I can see that line of thinking.

                    From my personal perspective, I can list many good pick ups in the late ND and RD. I would be prepared to gamble losing Greenwood and Redpath for the chance at such a player. From what I have seen live and on TV, I just don't how they've managed another contract.

                    But I see what you say, they must think the talent pool stops very early in the ND.
                    Yep. Agree. Wouldn't have a problem with the club cutting either of them.
                    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: Rookie Draft

                      Work this one out:

                      By my calculations we have 37 of 40 spots max on the primary list - this includes the elevation of Goodes.

                      We have, after Goodes, four third year rookies on the rookie list. By my understanding we can only have a max of three thrid year rookies on the rookie list.

                      Surely we'd use three live picks at the ND, taking the list to 40 of 40 primary spots.

                      That leaves at least one third year rookie too many.

                      Are these assumptions right? Who goes? If only one rookie we don't go to the rookie draft and PSD. Do we pass on pick 60?

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                      • Missing Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8501

                        Re: Rookie Draft

                        Originally posted by M.R.M
                        We have, after Goodes, four third year rookies on the rookie list. By my understanding we can only have a max of three thrid year rookies on the rookie list.
                        If there is such a rule (I don't believe there is) we could just delist Greenwood and re rookie him. No one will take him.

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                        • soupman
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 5091

                          Re: Rookie Draft

                          We may have promoted Austin.

                          As that counts as a primary list change (of which we have to make three) we could then draft just 2 players in the ND (actually just one would be enough with Goodes promotion as well), and draft one rookie.
                          I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            Re: Rookie Draft

                            Originally posted by bulldogsman
                            If there is such a rule (I don't believe there is) we could just delist Greenwood and re rookie him. No one will take him.
                            Begs the question doesn't it. What has anyone seen in him over the past three years? From what i've seen, and from what i've read of other peoples viewpoints, i don't recall anyone being complimentary regarding his talent.

                            He'd be my logical choice to be delisted, but if he played with Footscray that'd be it. Wouldn't see the point of re-rookie.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: Rookie Draft

                              Originally posted by soupaman
                              We may have promoted Austin.

                              As that counts as a primary list change (of which we have to make three) we could then draft just 2 players in the ND (actually just one would be enough with Goodes promotion as well), and draft one rookie.
                              If we did that I would have to question the decision. I just done see a premiership in this group just yet.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • soupman
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 5091

                                Re: Rookie Draft

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                If we did that I would have to question the decision. I just done see a premiership in this group just yet.
                                I think there are still a lot of players on their last chance next season.

                                Guys like Howard, Tutt, Pearce, Williams, Jong, Redpath, Greenwood, Cordy etc all need to really take a step forward next year to justify their spot.

                                I'd rather we give them that chance though and use the spots vacated by the failures (plus Gia and probably one of Boyd/Morris/Murphy) in a strong draft than we deny them that chance and fill their spots with very late picks in what seems to be a very weak draft.

                                Could also help spread the ages of our sides core players a bit further.
                                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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