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  • Bulldog Joe
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jul 2009
    • 5510

    Re: Rookie Draft

    Originally posted by Mofra
    If the 20% rule for rookie elevations over the past five years is taken into account, Dalrymple is batting above the league average.
    Dalrymple has indeed done well.

    This is his 3rd draft and from the 1st 2 he had 8 selections and has already had 4 upgraded to the senior list. This is a 50% strike rate and one of them (Hahn) was just insurance and NEVER getting back on the main list.

    If he can do as well this year we have added 2 more potential senior list players.
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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      Re: Rookie Draft

      Originally posted by BornAScragger
      I doubt we recruited him because of his background, but yes, it's an added bonus. Much like Majak Daw I guess.
      Doubt it. Most Asians think our game is for psychos.

      Pretty impressive that he has some elite aspects to his skill set already.
      Kicking will need a lot of work. Won't expect to see him in the seniors for a fair while, with just 4 seasons under his belt. Full of promise. Well done on keeping things interesting selectors!
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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15324

        Re: Rookie Draft

        Originally posted by chef
        Good to see another Ky boy(Wearden got picked up by Brissie) in Mangan get picked up this year. For small town we certainly do produce a lot of sports stars.
        I get your point but Is it a bit early to include these new draftees in the 'star' category?

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          Re: Rookie Draft

          Originally posted by Mantis
          I get your point but Is it a bit early to include these new draftees in the 'star' category?
          Everybody who plays for the Bulldogs is a star, Mantis.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            Re: Rookie Draft

            Had a closer look at the draft choices in the past 24 hours, quite pleased in general with the approach -- a lot less 'gambling' this year, and a genuine attempt at shoring up the no.10-20 spots in our starting 22 (from which several outstanding players may emerge a la Dahlhaus) rather than shooting for the 'stars' by picking long-shots and failing miserably. Not too many 'outlier' choices (other than Smith, but even he isn't a 'flaky' choice, more a solid player taken slighly early), and the rookies are all solid picks who have shown form at junior levels, or reasonable mature-age punts (other than Austin, a pick I don't really understand -- if we wanted an injury prone backman we've already got more than our fair share of those). No guarantees, of course, but we've given ourselves a good chance to unearth some solid AFL level players.

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            • Ghost Dog
              WOOF Member
              • May 2010
              • 9404

              Re: Rookie Draft

              Originally posted by Lantern
              Had a closer look at the draft choices in the past 24 hours, quite pleased in general with the approach -- a lot less 'gambling' this year, and a genuine attempt at shoring up the no.10-20 spots in our starting 22 (from which several outstanding players may emerge a la Dahlhaus) rather than shooting for the 'stars' by picking long-shots and failing miserably. Not too many 'outlier' choices (other than Smith, but even he isn't a 'flaky' choice, more a solid player taken slighly early), and the rookies are all solid picks who have shown form at junior levels, or reasonable mature-age punts (other than Austin, a pick I don't really understand -- if we wanted an injury prone backman we've already got more than our fair share of those). No guarantees, of course, but we've given ourselves a good chance to unearth some solid AFL level players.
              I was surprised about Austin too until I read a bit about him. In the last season, so I read, appears he was more unlucky than injury prone, being kept out of their backline by some pretty decent players.
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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11121

                Re: Rookie Draft

                I've seen Austin do some solid things, but I've seen him look equally as poor. I suppose for the last spot on the list, we could do worse.
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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14868

                  Re: Rookie Draft

                  Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                  I've seen Austin do some solid things, but I've seen him look equally as poor. I suppose for the last spot on the list, we could do worse.
                  Personally I think taking a punt on someone like Austin - and Redpath - is what we should be doing with the rookie list. Low risk, but large upside as it is injury, rather than ability, that has held them back. We only need one of them to have some luck with their body and we've found something.
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                  • The Underdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6802

                    Re: Rookie Draft

                    I have to say I'm pretty happy with the approach to the Rookie Draft. Whether the players work out or not is always marginal but 2 more mature KPF & KPD types plus a maturing ruck as well as a couple of mids who have in order, a strong athletic base but lack background in the game and a guy who can play but is undersized seem pretty good rookie attributes.

                    It's always easy to feel positive about these things at this time of year but it's hard to see a lot wrong with the way they've gone about this lot.
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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      Re: Rookie Draft

                      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                      I've seen Austin do some solid things, but I've seen him look equally as poor. I suppose for the last spot on the list, we could do worse.
                      In which areas was he poor / good TBB? Never seen the kid before.
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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        Re: Rookie Draft

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Personally I think taking a punt on someone like Austin - and Redpath - is what we should be doing with the rookie list. Low risk, but large upside as it is injury, rather than ability, that has held them back. We only need one of them to have some luck with their body and we've found something.
                        Very good points
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                        • Greystache
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9775

                          Re: Rookie Draft

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          Personally I think taking a punt on someone like Austin - and Redpath - is what we should be doing with the rookie list. Low risk, but large upside as it is injury, rather than ability, that has held them back. We only need one of them to have some luck with their body and we've found something.

                          Someone I know at Carlton said to me if Austin had've had a better run with injuries he'd have been out of the AFL system 2 years ago. It's only his lack of footballing continuity that's allowed him to extend his career.
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                          • The Underdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6802

                            Re: Rookie Draft

                            Originally posted by Greystache
                            Someone I know at Carlton said to me if Austin had've had a better run with injuries he'd have been out of the AFL system 2 years ago. It's only his lack of footballing continuity that's allowed him to extend his career.
                            They've had 2 weeks to look at him close up, the coaching staff obviously think there is something to work with. Whether they are right or wrong is another matter.
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                            • Ghost Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 9404

                              Re: Rookie Draft

                              I love the rookie draft. It's much more interesting.
                              Same way I love op shops and used car lots. Nothing satisfies like a bargain!
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                              • The Bulldogs Bite
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11121

                                Re: Rookie Draft

                                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                                In which areas was he poor / good TBB? Never seen the kid before.
                                He'll run and fly for a ball, either spoil it really well or take a surprisingly good mark. The next contest, he'll be out-bodied by a player half his size.

                                It's not like I watch him play every week, but he's one of those inconsistent players from contest to contest, let alone game to game.

                                Maybe it is a continuity thing, although I think he's played enough footy despite his injuries. He may be able to offer something as a third tall, but there's no way he can compete as the number one (or two) defender IMO.
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