Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

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  • GVGjr
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    • Nov 2006
    • 44700

    #91
    Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

    Thank you for the terrific reports! What were people's impressions of changes in game style overall?
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    • always right
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 4189

      #92
      Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

      Originally posted by Mount Mistake
      Thank you for the terrific reports! What were people's impressions of changes in game style overall?
      Probably best to wait until we play another side before answering this....but getting numbers around the ball appears to be a clear component.
      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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      • Bulldog4life
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        • Oct 2007
        • 9607

        #93
        Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

        Originally posted by Mofra
        IIRC he was 6th at the club in the endurance running?
        For mine he does have the tank, but not yet the smarts to play a midfield role and find the ball with any regularity.

        I'm worried that he will be an Everitt type - overall a good player without being outstanding, good skill set, slightly below the intensity level required and worryingly, wont cement himself in a set position in the side (jack of all trades, master of none).

        Everitt in his last season for us was interviewed after a VFL game and was asked his best position - he couldn't answer the question. I hope Howard at least has a favourite position in mind.
        According to what the coach and his assistants say they want the players being able to play in a number of positions. I'd imagine irrespective of what their favourite positions is.

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        • Bornadog
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          • Jan 2007
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          #94
          Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

          Originally posted by Mofra
          IIRC he was 6th at the club in the endurance running?
          For mine he does have the tank, but not yet the smarts to play a midfield role and find the ball with any regularity.

          I'm worried that he will be an Everitt type - overall a good player without being outstanding, good skill set, slightly below the intensity level required and worryingly, wont cement himself in a set position in the side (jack of all trades, master of none).

          Everitt in his last season for us was interviewed after a VFL game and was asked his best position - he couldn't answer the question. I hope Howard at least has a favourite position in mind.
          You could tell from the way Everitt's body language and the way he played was very lazy. I don't see this in Howard. I think he does have the intensity, but agree he is not a midfielder at this stage. As others have indicated, HBF or wing until he can develop his skills further.
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          • GVGjr
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            • Nov 2006
            • 44700

            #95
            Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

            Originally posted by always right
            Probably best to wait until we play another side before answering this....but getting numbers around the ball appears to be a clear component.
            Fair call. I look forward to seeing us hunting ball and player with intent this year and playing with real ferociousness.
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            • choconmientay
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              • Dec 2009
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              #96
              Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
              I thought Howard was doing quite well in time trials in the past? Right up there with the leaders.... is this wrong?
              AFL site is running an article about him today. They mentioned about his training in the pace department ... "He has added about 5kg and has still managed to rank in the top echelon of Bulldogs - along with the club's veteran pacesetters, skipper Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross and Daniel Giansiracusa - in their high-intensity running tests.""


              I think this year may be an exciting year for him.
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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10166

                #97
                Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

                Originally posted by choconmientay
                AFL site is running an article about him today. They mentioned about his training in the pace department ... "He has added about 5kg and has still managed to rank in the top echelon of Bulldogs - along with the club's veteran pacesetters, skipper Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross and Daniel Giansiracusa - in their high-intensity running tests.""


                I think this year may be an exciting year for him.
                Terrific article, I know just about all stories follow the same theme, but he genuinely seems very focused and understands the amount of work ahead of him to become a consistent AFL player. It seems he really looks up to Crossy, and that has to be a good thing.

                This article also screams leadership material to me.

                He's going to be one to watch closely over the NAB Cup to see how much he has improved over the pre-season.
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                • LostDoggy
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                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #98
                  Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

                  Originally posted by Griffen#16
                  This article also screams leadership material to me.
                  I think that's jumping the gun.
                  He'll need to get a game first. I don't think he is in our best 22 and as already mentioned has no position yet.

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14340

                    #99
                    Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

                    I watched a few Willy games last year and I thought Jones showed leadership, he was giving instructions when not in the play.
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • LostDoggy
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                      • Jan 2007
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                      Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

                      As well as Griff, Murph, Gia and the usuals I thought Liam Picken put in a great game on Saturday. Always breathing down the neck of his opponent and often winning the ball and doing one of his long kicks. How come no one has mentioned him???

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                      • Ghost Dog
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                        • May 2010
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                        Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        IIRC he was 6th at the club in the endurance running?
                        For mine he does have the tank, but not yet the smarts to play a midfield role and find the ball with any regularity.

                        I'm worried that he will be an Everitt type - overall a good player without being outstanding, good skill set, slightly below the intensity level required and worryingly, wont cement himself in a set position in the side (jack of all trades, master of none).

                        Everitt in his last season for us was interviewed after a VFL game and was asked his best position - he couldn't answer the question. I hope Howard at least has a favourite position in mind.

                        Everitt was interviewed and said he wanted to play on the wing. I remember because many on here cried " No such position anymore!".
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                        • Missing-Dog
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                          • Jan 2007
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                          Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

                          Originally posted by 39 Memories
                          As well as Griff, Murph, Gia and the usuals I thought Liam Picken put in a great game on Saturday. Always breathing down the neck of his opponent and often winning the ball and doing one of his long kicks. How come no one has mentioned him???
                          I have said it before, if we had a team full of pickens, we would be very hard to beat! always catches his man and is prectically stuck to them like glue.. Cant wait to see him play love his intent and hardness!

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                          • LostDoggy
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

                            I like some people pump players up while other players are undervalued. Picken is a reasonable player but to say we need a team of players like him is overplaying his talent. He is no star. Even last season when he played poorly, it was hardily mentioned.

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21840

                              Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

                              Originally posted by Chops
                              I like some people pump players up while other players are undervalued. Picken is a reasonable player but to say we need a team of players like him is overplaying his talent. He is no star. Even last season when he played poorly, it was hardily mentioned.
                              Picken's type seem to get a bit of a free pass from supporters, and it always astounds me.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
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                                Re: Bulldog Intraclub Clash - 11 February 2012

                                Originally posted by jeemak
                                Picken's type seem to get a bit of a free pass from supporters, and it always astounds me.
                                It's the weight of expectation - as a rookie, expectations are low.

                                A higher draft pick with a good skill set will be expected to perform like Judd every week (ie Higgins)
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