What we need is...

[Eastdog]

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Unfortunately for Matty he's being used as defender for Willi at the moment , its been a while since he played as a KP forward and slotted a bag

At the moment what we need is for both Minson and Roughead to make an impact up forward and on the scoreboard , if they both average a goal a game I,d be happy with that


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What did you make of Minson our number one ruck mans game last night.

[LostDoggy]

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What did you make of Minson our number one ruck mans game last night.

Both Minson and Roughead are doing a serviceable job but they are just not making enough impact up forward , between them they had 6 contested possessions, 0 marks inside 50, 0 contested marks , 1 goal

What we need is for both of them to take on more responsibility for what they are not contributing


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[Sockeye Salmon]

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Both Minson and Roughead are doing a serviceable job but they are just not making enough impact up forward , between them they had 6 contested possessions, 0 marks inside 50, 0 contested marks , 1 goal

What we need is for both of them to take on more responsibility for what they are not contributing


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Roughie kicked his goal from a mark inside 50

[Eastdog]

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Both Minson and Roughhead are doing a serviceable job but they are just not making enough impact up forward , between them they had 6 contested possessions, 0 marks inside 50, 0 contested marks , 1 goal

What we need is for both of them to take on more responsibility for what they are not contributing


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From those stats clearly they need to contribute a lot more. What was the main reason we came back? I think it was the midfield that got us back into it.

[LostDoggy]

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Roughie kicked his goal from a mark inside 50

After I posted that I thought I missed one , the stats are a bit hard to read , this thirsty is making me rum

What we might need is a coffee ( later )

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[LostDoggy]

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From those stats clearly they need to contribute a lot more. What was the main reason we came back? I think it was the midfield that got us back into it.

From what we have seen so far is that Macca,s game plan is to overload the midfield and only use two forwards and a rotating ruckman , its a balance that is going to mean our scoring will fluctuate depending on how well our midfield can control the ball and push forward and kick goals
We dont have a player like Gilbee in form who can drag an opponent forward and slot one from 50m
We dont have Barry Hall
What we do have is a new solid game plan which the players have to adapt to and at the moment Minson and Roughead have a vital role in providing a target up forward when the time comes and they both need to get with the program

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[FrediKanoute]

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The fact that talk like that is happening in round two is disappointing. Its almost Richmond like.

I won't consider where will finish and how that relates to the draft until much, much later in the season.

Have to agree. We have been competitive in both games and beaten more through poor execution than anything else. Our 2nd half of the year will be better than our first. Bottom 5 maybe, but I expect daylight between us and the bottom 4.

[FrediKanoute]

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Do we need to lock Wallis into a half back flank role for 3 or 4 weeks and see how he goes?
Giving him some continuity in his game of just one player to beat might assist him.

Given that his old man ended up a defender is it such a surprise that Wally Jnr will end up in the back half? He has a good football brain, but is just a little slow (not unlike his old man). To me, Addison is a hard nut with little or no ability to win the ball and influence a game, Wally jnr I think will at least be a better long term prospect off half back or in the back pocket.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Given that his old man ended up a defender is it such a surprise that Wally Jnr will end up in the back half? He has a good football brain, but is just a little slow (not unlike his old man). To me, Addison is a hard nut with little or no ability to win the ball and influence a game, Wally jnr I think will at least be a better long term prospect off half back or in the back pocket.

What has his old man got to do with it?

Cordy to the HBF?

[ledge]

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What has his old man got to do with it?
Cordy to the HBF?

Well he wouldnt be here if it wasnt for his old man, apart from that

[Bumper Bulldogs]

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Back on track, I think we just need a win, Yes that will inject a heap of confidence into the players and coaching staff. I know we have a new game plan, new kids. but remember there is nothing like a win to get pumped about. I feel that we may not get over the Saints this week but after that we have a good run with sides we can beat,

Don't panic we are far better than the W.coast flogging and it could have easy been a different result against the Crows. The boys have shown a bit and each game i can see improvement in the team.

[Ghost Dog]

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Given that his old man ended up a defender is it such a surprise that Wally Jnr will end up in the back half? He has a good football brain, but is just a little slow (not unlike his old man). To me, Addison is a hard nut with little or no ability to win the ball and influence a game, Wally jnr I think will at least be a better long term prospect off half back or in the back pocket.

Wallis Jnr hasn't played that bad has he? His disposal has been weak, but Boyd had a shocker of a game disposal wise and rebounded. Wally looks like a born in and under player. All for mixing it, but see this as a bad call. Why not persist with his development and give him a few games to cut his teeth?

[FrediKanoute]

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What has his old man got to do with it?

Cordy to the HBF?

Call it genetics, but I see a lot of similarities in they way Wally Jnr executes the basic skills of the game that are just like Wally Snr.

a) Wally Snr was a serviceable kick; he had an awkward kicking action; struggled to get any distance/penetration. Wally Jnr is the same.

b) Wally Snr was not overly blessed with pace; Wally Jnr is the same.

c) Wally Snr read the play extremely well and got into good positions, especially as a backman. One of the original generators off half back (credit Malthouse with that one); Wally Jnr also reads the play well, just at the moment he is struggling with a tank and the pace of the game.

d) Wally Snr was hard and willing to put his head over the ball; I'm yet to se Wally Jnr shirk a contest, but the kind of hardness that Wally Snr has requires multiple pre-seasons and a hardening of the body; Wally Jnr needs time.

[Dog54]

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Wallis Jnr hasn't played that bad has he? His disposal has been weak, but Boyd had a shocker of a game disposal wise and rebounded. Wally looks like a born in and under player. All for mixing it, but see this as a bad call. Why not persist with his development and give him a few games to cut his teeth?

Does anyone no if the dogs have the decision making software in the elite learning centre ? I have seen Hawthorn use this it is computer based on a huge screen and the play unfolds and the player needs to make right decision.... I think you can improve your poise and decision making. We should be working with a few of our players including allies and clay smith

[FrediKanoute]

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Wallis Jnr hasn't played that bad has he? His disposal has been weak, but Boyd had a shocker of a game disposal wise and rebounded. Wally looks like a born in and under player. All for mixing it, but see this as a bad call. Why not persist with his development and give him a few games to cut his teeth?

I agree, he needs time. Whether that is at Willy or in the seniors depends on form and contribution. I like the idea of a back flank because we already have developing, Libba and Smith.