Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

[GVGjr]

Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

I know it's very early but at first glance Redpath looks like a ruckman pinch hitting up forward with the actual ability to ruck.

I have seen him 4 times and he's failed to impress. He doesn't read the game very well and the other week against the Northern Blues he failed to see that with Campbell in the hands of the trainers (and Cordy 50 mtrs closer to the goal) there was an opportunity for him to step up and take a boundary throw in. Instead he turned his back and jogged back into the 50 mtr arc leaving the 184cm Ben Jolley to take the contest. The Northern Blues took the ball down field and kicked a goal. He's 194cm tall and needed to assess the position of the game (the Blues had kicked a couple and were full of run) and that he was the man to take that contest and influence the game.
Against the Cats he was pretty poor as well.
He's nowhere near ready for a promotion.

[Greystache]

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Half?....why not three quarters or four fifths? I never realised the answer to our woes was simply choosing the most appropriate mathematical formula. In these dark times it's good to find posts that give us a laugh.

Again... Have you got any thoughts of your own?

[always right]

Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

Again... Have you got any thoughts of your own?

Mate...it's hard keeping up with everyone elses on this board without coming up with my own

Everyone's is crapped off....I get it. Saturday night was humiliating and not only is there no light at the end of the tunnel....we're battling to see the bloody tunnel. But some of the demands for blokes to be dropped are a little fanciful.

People are calling for Cordy to be dropped when they have complained about Wallis being dropped after one match. Some are calling for Talia to be incuded in a team that already has the worst kicking skills in the comp. Others want Addison dropped because....well he's Addison, even though he was close to our best player on Saturday.

I think the most valid criticism has been of the coaching in the box..the lack of trying anything different. My biggest criticism is of the decision to play Murphy on Milne, even though he did a pretty good job on the little germ. Murphy is playing back to give us run out of defence and precise disposal. He should always play on one of the half forwards and never be put in a position where he has play tight or deep. The way he was used on Saturday was just plain dumb.

[The Underdog]

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In: Sherman, Wallis, Vezspremi

Out: Cordy (liked his game and want to see him play, but the 3 rucks doesn't work), Smith, Wood

I think we need the run of Sherman and Vez and while we lose Wood's athleticism he just looks like a guy who needs to go back to the VFL and get some confidence. Smith hasn't effected the last 2 games while Wallis was excellent for Willy last week. Sherman is Sherman but given our method of moving the ball forward seems to involve basic randomness, he can certainly provide that but quicker.

[Ghost Dog]

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Mate...it's hard keeping up with everyone elses on this board without coming up with my own

Everyone's is crapped off....I get it. Saturday night was humiliating and not only is there no light at the end of the tunnel....we're battling to see the bloody tunnel. But some of the demands for blokes to be dropped are a little fanciful.

People are calling for Cordy to be dropped when they have complained about Wallis being dropped after one match. Some are calling for Talia to be incuded in a team that already has the worst kicking skills in the comp. Others want Addison dropped because....well he's Addison, even though he was close to our best player on Saturday.

I think the most valid criticism has been of the coaching in the box..the lack of trying anything different. My biggest criticism is of the decision to play Murphy on Milne, even though he did a pretty good job on the little germ. Murphy is playing back to give us run out of defence and precise disposal. He should always play on one of the half forwards and never be put in a position where he has play tight or deep. The way he was used on Saturday was just plain dumb.

This part could be printed off and posted to the club.

[MrMahatma]

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I don't think we should drop Ayce. Give him a few weeks at it.

Bring in Wallis for Wood. Vespa for Shaggy.

Not much else will change. Macca said as much in the presser. We won't be dropping kids on mass. Smith is his fave. He'll play.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Well, that's your version and it's a good start. But just not enough being dropped. Every loss like this, it has to be at least a third of the team, maybe even half.

This sort of reaction sounds great in theory but doesn't work in real life. It may help to make angry /hurt supporters feel momentarily better, but is a sure fire recipe for creating a very unstable football club. Football involves people and is not just about shuffling names into positions on paper.
The old 'floggings will continue until morale improves' type approach doesn't cut it in professional sport let alone in every day life.
Selections can only ever be made with consideration to game plan, opposition and player availability/positional suitability.

[Ghost Dog]

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Where do you start?

Hargrave & Gia were woeful, Smith was shocking. Cordy & Roughy not much better.

Not much really to bring which doesn't help, Sherman & Wallis will come in, but I can't see them helping.

Is it possible Hargrave's prior injuries have affected his kicking? He's got a serious case of the yips.

[Ghost Dog]

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Ok next week:

FB: Addison, Markovic, Talia
HB: Higgins*, Cordy, Picken
C: Wallis, Liberatore, Dalhaus
HF: Murphy, Jones, Veszpremi
FF: Panos, Campbell, Giansircusa*
F: Minson* ^, Boyd, Griffen
Bench: Cooney, Djerrkura, Sherman, Skinner (s)

*playing for their spot this week.
^ not to play in forward line at all. Must ruck all day.

In: Talia, Wallis, Veszpremi, Panos, Campbell, Sherman, Skinner
Out: Wood, Hargrave, Roughead, J Grant, C Smith, Cross, Lake (suspended 1 match)

I understand that Austin is injured, otherwise would have been tempted to put him in for Talia.

Sorry but we have to mix it up fairly regularly until we start winning. Players have to know that a bad loss results automatically in 1/3 of the team being dropped. Simple as that. Then you will start getting results.

Furthermore...

Note the positional changes. Shift players around until they start playing well or are dropped. Experiment in the seniors non-stop from now. This is necessary because at the moment we look like a bottom 3 finish, perhaps even the bottom with no upside apparent. Repeat, the situation is now desperate. The strategy that has been tried so far this season, the "accountable" strategy whereby the whole team plays within a radius of 5 metres from the ball and just keeps piling in on top of each other somewhere near where they last saw the ball or even when we actually have the ball has to stop NOW.

The coach stated that dropping players on performance of last week is not an option.

[Ozza]

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INS - OUTS

Wallis - Cross* I realise this won't happen.
Sherman - Cordy
Veszpremi - Addison

Wood would be desperately lucky - but at this stage I'm willing to persist because of his physical attributes. Cordy is probably stiff - but we are too slow as it is.

Would like to see Grant start and finish up forward - inside the 50.

[Mantis]

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Is it possible Hargrave's prior injuries have affected his kicking? He's got a serious case of the yips.

I wouldn't have thought so.

His kicking action is fine, it's more his decision making and execution that's the problem.

[Mofra]

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sorry, meant the pre-season draft pick, Fletcher Roberts.

Basically, they've just got to start turning the players over and making no excuses. That's what "accountable" should mean not being all on the ball at once.

Why Roberts? He's an 18 year old kid finding his feet in defence at VFL level, looks decent but very raw and no where near senior AFL football.

[Ghost Dog]

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I wouldn't have thought so.

His kicking action is fine, it's more his decision making and execution that's the problem.

You are right. It has been shocking and very very frustrating for a senior player to be doing this, considering all the rehab to get him up.

[Dog54]

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Ins:
Sherman ( need the run and can spread a downhill skier)
Vezpremi



Outs

Lake (well what a goose)
Smith ( work on decision making and kicking


Suggest play Ace or roughed in defence

Vezpremi as a forward and free up Gia more through the middle as he has very good disposal efficiency and can win his own ball.

[chef]

Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

In

Wallis
Sherman
Veszpremi
Talia(if Lake goes)

Out

Roughead
Smith
Hargrave
Lake(if suspended)