Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11248

    #91
    Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

    Originally posted by EasternWest
    Look, I've no problem with calls for any player to be shifted/dropped/moved if warranted by form. But why keep an underperforming player on "what he might do next time" at the expense of a guy who hasn't done anything wrong to deserve it. I don't want to be seen as having a go at Ozza, because he/she is entitled to his/her opinion, but I can't see the reason for why Wood should stay and Dylan go.
    Addison has done nothing wrong this season to date and can't be dropped on form thus far. We all know he has his limitations but he has performed a role down back as creditably as anyone could have reasonably expected. What it says about the state of our list at the moment that DFA is one of the first dozen picked (and deservedly so) is a topic for another day.
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    • EasternWest
      Hall of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 10002

      #92
      Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

      Originally posted by Ozza
      Its not all about how someone performs in one game. My preference is to look at where we are going as a footy club - and, within reason, sticking with blokes who will be in the team in 2 or 3 years when it is a bit of a line ball call.
      Fair enough, that's a reasonable thing to say. For mine, we're also dealing in the now, and Wood is performing poorly, Addison isn't.

      And who's to say with a decent crack at it Addison can't become a consistent role player in the next few years? I mean, we all know that he's probably on a knife edge when it comes to his future at the club, but he can't do any more than perform within the opportunity presented to him, and it's unfair to drop him in preference to Wood because there's a perceived future upside in Easton.

      I enjoyed reading your reasoning though, it was well thought out and while I mostly disagree with it, I get where you're coming from.
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      • Missing Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8501

        #93
        Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

        Originally posted by Desipura
        Ok, got it, Wood on Milne
        Maybe I wasn't clear enough Desi but I was referring to DFA not Wood who needs a rest at Willi IMHO .

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        • G-Mo77
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Apr 2007
          • 9876

          #94
          Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

          So Lake's officially out. I'm not bringing in any extra talls if I'm selecting the team. Clarke, Martin/Jamar are there only real big guys up forward and I think we can counter that with Marko and Cordy/Roughead, I'd prefer Cordy personally. Watts is more versatile than any of those guys so maybe you throw Shaggy at him or Wood. I'd give Vez a run in his place and go with some of the Dee's smaller forwards.

          I'm throwing Wallis back in and leaving him there for at least 5 weeks at the expense of Smith. 3 games for the kid and he's looking cooked. A spell won't hurt him at all.

          That's all I'd do.

          Outs: Lake and Smith
          Ins. Wallis and Veszpremi

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66726

            #95
            Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

            Originally posted by G-Mo77
            So Lake's officially out. I'm not bringing in any extra talls if I'm selecting the team. Clarke, Martin/Jamar are there only real big guys up forward and I think we can counter that with Marko and Cordy/Roughead, I'd prefer Cordy personally. Watts is more versatile than any of those guys so maybe you throw Shaggy at him or Wood. I'd give Vez a run in his place and go with some of the Dee's smaller forwards.

            I'm throwing Wallis back in and leaving him there for at least 5 weeks at the expense of Smith. 3 games for the kid and he's looking cooked. A spell won't hurt him at all.

            That's all I'd do.

            Outs: Lake and Smith
            Ins. Wallis and Veszpremi
            You don't think Sherman should come in?
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            • G-Mo77
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Apr 2007
              • 9876

              #96
              Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

              Originally posted by bornadog
              You don't think Sherman should come in?
              Not really. Once he gets through his head fundmentals over making himself look good on the field then I'll play him.

              I was screaming at the TV when he missed one goal in particular on Saturday.

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              • Sockeye Salmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6365

                #97
                Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                In: Sherman, Austin, Wallis, Veszpremi
                Out: Lake, Wood, Smith, Roughead

                I'd rather Roughead was retained but we have to get more run and he was the unlucky one.

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                • Bulldog Revolution
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 3926

                  #98
                  Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                  Yep, Austin has to come in for Lake - the guy has been in good touch and looks a handy player, with Morris, Williams and Lake out there is no point having him on the list if he doesn't play this week, and he has looked a capable backup.

                  In: Austin, Veszpremi
                  Out: Lake, Smith

                  I just don't see Roughie or Cordy being dropped this week. BMac was complimentary about Roughies improved competitiveness, and I'm not sure we would play Cordy for 1. If 1 has to be dropped its Cordy at this stage.

                  Wood is not in good touch, but everything we know about him suggests he is a fine member of the team, and again I'm just not sure he will be dropped

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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15448

                    #99
                    Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                    Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
                    Wood is not in good touch, but everything we know about him suggests he is a fine member of the team, and again I'm just not sure he will be dropped
                    Such a good member that he likes to gift the opposing team a couple of goals per game.

                    And why is what you stated important?

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                    • Nuggety Back Pocket
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2064

                      Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                      Originally posted by The Pie Man
                      I'm liking some of the calls for Tom Hill's inclusion, as I was hugely impressed by what I saw on Saturday - does anyone think Jones needs a confidence boost in the VFL, or do we persist with development in the seniors and concede delivery to him has been the major factor in his poor form?
                      I would like to see Hill come in at FF. I would like to see Jones retained playing alongside Hill in a FP. We having nothing to lose by playing Hill or Panos. Jones has been given too much responsibility as the only key forward to date and has clearly struggled. He desperately needs more support rather than being dropped.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44645

                        Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                        Originally posted by Mantis

                        And why is what you stated important?
                        BR has supplied a reason why he thinks Wood won't be dropped. It's important to the discussion.
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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15448

                          Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          BR has supplied a reason why he thinks Wood won't be dropped. It's important to the discussion.
                          You have mistaken the context of my comment.

                          My point was that why should matter if he is or isn't a fine member of the team in determining if he should remain in the side... The cold hard facts are that he is playing poorly and isn't really helping our chances of winning.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44645

                            Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            You have mistaken the context of my comment.
                            Sorry, yes I did make the mistake
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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66726

                              Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              You have mistaken the context of my comment.

                              My point was that why should matter if he is or isn't a fine member of the team in determining if he should remain in the side... The cold hard facts are that he is playing poorly and isn't really helping our chances of winning.
                              I didn't like Wood playing in defence last year and this year he is being found out. I think he has potential but a new role needs to be found and a stint at Willi may help him develop to be a better player.
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                              • Nuggety Back Pocket
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 2064

                                Re: Match Committee - Round 4 vs Melbourne

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                I'd consider adding (from) Wallis, Sherman, Dickson, Austin and/or maybe Talia

                                Outs Smith, Wood and Roughead and maybe one more.
                                I agree on your four ins but believe Roughead should be retained to work as the ruck tandem with Minson. I agree on both Smith and Wood going back to Willy. Smith needs to work on his disposal to be a regular senior player. Wood I believe will become a better player out of defence and played further afield.

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