The loss we needed

[AndrewP6]

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We're St Kilda's bitches. Nothing more, nothing less. As soon as the draw is announced each year, those blokes must check to see if they're fortunate enough to get a free 8 points by playing us twice.

No way in hell would they take us seriously as a footy club.

Don't think many would at the moment.

[LostDoggy]

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This is one thing I absolutely hate seeing. Eade did it at times too, and it simply kills us every time.

Maybe when we were a better skilled side, able to hit targets and moved the ball quicker, it was more viable option. We ain't that side anymore.
Also for 2 seasons under Eade we have Hall who copped better 2 on 1 than younger players would.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Maybe when we were a better skilled side, able to hit targets and moved the ball quicker, it was more viable option. We ain't that side anymore.
Also for 2 seasons under Eade we have Hall who copped better 2 on 1 than younger players would.

Definitely, but we did it in 2010 and 2011 when our skills were ordinary too.

A lot of sides find themselves in similar positions (IE. Melbourne) and I cannot understand why we (and they) persist with it.

Nothing worse than seeing Jones and alike constantly out-numbered in the air and on the ground.

[LostDoggy]

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Definitely, but we did it in 2010 and 2011 when our skills were ordinary too.

A lot of sides find themselves in similar positions (IE. Melbourne) and I cannot understand why we (and they) persist with it.

Nothing worse than seeing Jones and alike constantly out-numbered in the air and on the ground.

We might play 1 short up forward sometimes but being out numbered has more to do with slow and poor delivery than anything. Jones isn't standing still.

We persist with it cos we turn it over so much inmidfield, we need to stem the tide some how.

[LostDoggy]

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8. Try Veszpremi as a small forward again. That appears to be his specialty.

More to the point, how about giving him a game. He was good down back in a couple of pre-season games and Hargrave and Wood arent exactly tearing the house down!

[FrediKanoute]

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The positive thing out of last night was that we have played more kids than the Aints over the past 2 years. They won't play in a Grand Final this year and will be 1-2 years behind us in development.

Really? Their kids did ok last night. Armitage, Geary, McEvoy all had an impact last night. Ours (Dahlhaus aside) were passengers. What we are lacking is to see our boys take the game by the scruff of the neck. What we need are the young guys to realise that their time is now and they should step up and take that opportunity.

[Bornadog]

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A few worries:
Cross is finished. He's got to be the slowest player in the AFL, with terrible skills by foot and hand

I agree he is the slow, but his skills with foot and hand are very good and hits targets with a disposal efficiency of over 70% every week. A few years back at his peak it was 80% plus.

[FrediKanoute]

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Still don't think that drafting a O'Hailpin type would have been the right move. As much as Jones is being regularly beaten, we need him to learn how to be the number 1 forward, where to run etc (reading the play and running to the right spots is still his biggest issue IMO).

If we keep playing Jones he way we do we will ruin him as a footballer. We will sap all his confidence and more than likely he will get injured. We need a big bodied guy in the forward line to draw away some of the attention from Jones.

[Ghost Dog]

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If we keep playing Jones he way we do we will ruin him as a footballer. We will sap all his confidence and more than likely he will get injured. We need a big bodied guy in the forward line to draw away some of the attention from Jones.

Brad Johnson said something similar last year when Barry was out for a bit.

[Ghost Dog]

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I'd say more than a few years Andrew...gws will go past us in the next 2 years I have no doubt.

Well watching GC last night I'm not that confident we can beat them either.

[G-Mo77]

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What infuriated me last year and what I saw last night is no pride. Too often losses like this mount up and our boys and coaching staff just seem to take it and not give a stuff how deplorable performances like that hurt this club off the field. On that game alone we probably lost around 500 member sign ups and take another 1000 from the current members off the total in 2013. I don't care how young our list is we are better than that, play with some bloody heart!!!

[Ghost Dog]

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What infuriated me last year and what I saw last night is no pride. Too often losses like this mount up and our boys and coaching staff just seem to take it and not give a stuff how deplorable performances like that hurt this club off the field. On that game alone we probably lost around 500 member sign ups and take another 1000 from the current members off the total in 2013. I don't care how young our list is we are better than that, play with some bloody heart!!!

How do you fix something like that? It takes time.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I agree he is the slow, but his skills with foot and hand are very good and hits targets with a disposal efficiency of over 70% every week. A few years back at his peak it was 80% plus.

Half of them put the receiver under immense pressure though, so even though they hit the target, they are stupid handballs over the head or to players running past with an opponent under their collar. Alternatively, he stops, props, goes left, right, then distributes the ball as the opposition have closed off his options.

I just don't see how Cross is damaging to anyone but us.

[G-Mo77]

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How do you fix something like that? It takes time.

How long do they want? It's not something we lost this season.

[Ghost Dog]

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How long do they want? It's not something we lost this season.

How do you suggest fixing what you see as being a problem at the heart of the club's culture?( if there is one )