The loss we needed

[Eastdog]

Re: The loss we needed

Indeed.

It's very sad we've reached this point, his disposal numbers go up every season and his impact on games goes down.

From that I'm guessing his disposal efficiency was poor.

[1eyedog]

Re: The loss we needed

Half of them put the receiver under immense pressure though, so even though they hit the target, they are stupid handballs over the head or to players running past with an opponent under their collar. Alternatively, he stops, props, goes left, right, then distributes the ball as the opposition have closed off his options.

I just don't see how Cross is damaging to anyone but us.

Cross was far from our worse last night, he took care of Goddard for a good deal of the match, class won out. I can name half a dozen who turned the ball over more than Cross who had just as many disposals.

[1eyedog]

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That's cheesy gimmicky old school thinking .
I forecast some pain this year and next.
Must Must Must recruit polished types, No more in and under TYPES!!
No more smokey's, bolters, rugby athletes .

Polished types are often soft. The good ones are flagged early and go to the bottom three teams each year (with the exception of the past two years). We get ones like Howard. We need about 3 Callan Wards and a decent key forward.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Possibly, anything has got to be better than him getting the ball on the outside, and he doesn't win clearances. It would also provide more opportunity for kids to try to become our key ball winners.

I just don't see where Cross fits into AFL footy. He doesn't have the skillset to be an extractor and he is far too slow to play on a wing or as a lockdown player.

What's worse is that I can't see us ever dropping him in favour of a younger player (eg. Wallis).

[SonofScray]

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As a side note I think Boyd should be tagging and tagging only, but I can't see it happening.

I think this isn't too far off the mark at all. Some guys will need to go, some roles will need to change. Just no balance in the current midfield mix, both in type and what appears to be roles.

We're almost looking at another proposition like what was put to Libba Snr if he wanted to hang around for Wallaces' stint as coach.

[Eastdog]

Re: The loss we needed

I just don't see where Cross fits into AFL footy. He doesn't have the skillset to be an extractor and he is far too slow to play on a wing or as a lockdown player.

What's worse is that I can't see us ever dropping him in favour of a younger player (eg. Wallis).

This is something we should do. That may give Cross something to think about.

[EasternWest]

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This is something we should do. That may give Cross something to think about.

Unfair on Cross. If he gets dropped its not because he needs to learn a lesson.

[Eastdog]

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Unfair on Cross. If he gets dropped its not because he needs to learn a lesson.

Do you think though that Wallis should get a game? Who would we drop if we keep Cross.

[Remi Moses]

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Polished types are often soft. The good ones are flagged early and go to the bottom three teams each year (with the exception of the past two years). We get ones like Howard. We need about 3 Callan Wards and a decent key forward.

Bit early to draw any assumption on Howard's career.
No point getting a contested footy and coughing it up, the turnover is a coach killer.
We actually miss players like the Eagle, with his run spread and wheeling left.
As People have stated we get the contested footy line, but teams still need some quality distribution and speed

[EasternWest]

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Do you think though that Wallis should get a game? Who would we drop if we keep Cross.

I saw neither the Dogs nor Willy game so I can't comment on that. Wallis is obviously a player for the future and if Cross makes way so be it.

But I restate: Cross will never be dropped, and nor should he, to "give him something to think about".

[Eastdog]

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I saw neither the Dogs nor Willy game so I can't comment on that. Wallis is obviously a player for the future and if Cross makes way so be it.

But I restate: Cross will never be dropped, and nor should he, to "give him something to think about".

I see what your saying EasternWest. It would be like if Boyd played one of his worst games he would not be dropped for the next game because of his position at the club as our captain.

[EasternWest]

Re: The loss we needed

I see what your saying EasternWest. It would be like if Boyd played one of his worst games he would not be dropped for the next game because of his position at the club as our captain.

No. That's not what I'm saying at all.

You're suggesting Cross be dropped to teach him something. I'm saying Cross has more than proven his commitment and dedication to our club. His professionalism is second to none and beyond reproach. Why would an example need to be made of him?

If his time is up because he's too slow/old/insert adjective here and it's the best thing for our club, I can accept that. But to suggest he be dropped as some kind of punishment is ludicrous.

[Eastdog]

Re: The loss we needed

No. That's not what I'm saying at all.

You're suggesting Cross be dropped to teach him something. I'm saying Cross has more than proven his commitment and dedication to our club. His professionalism is second to none and beyond reproach. Why would an example need to be made of him?

If his time is up because he's too slow/old/insert adjective here and it's the best thing for our club, I can accept that. But to suggest he be dropped as some kind of punishment is ludicrous.

Understand.