Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

[GVGjr]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

We should have got in early with Ward, if we valued him as a future player we should have extended his contract well before GWS came sniffing. The club knew about the expansion clubs coming in and should have acted to sign up our future stars.

Exactly right. We waited to long to put a good offer in front of him and allowed his manager to shop him around. We could have him signed well before the 2011 season

[Maddog37]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

In the end though he left for the cash. Nothing else.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

In the end though he left for the cash. Nothing else.

Don't forget his "football journey"

[The Pie Man]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

- Unnecessary trades, Sherman, Djekurra and the price we paid for them.

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I won't argue with the price paid for the above, though our list is lacking in this important age bracket that these two reside in, and if those two and Vesz can start to have an impact, in the long run they maybe astute trades (despite what was given up)

While Addison has his detractors - and honestly looking like a waste of 50 games near the end of last season - he now has an opportunity to become a 100 game + player that honestly, we really need him (and others) to be.

From YOB 86 - 89 (23-26) you've got DFA, Dickson, Djekurra, Grant, Higgins, Mulligan, Picken, Sherman, Vesz, Williams & Wood.

No absolute stars (notwithstanding the deserved love for Picken) though those in bold I believe have a future - and other than Mulligan, the rest will be given opportunities. We really need this group to ...can someone help me with a phrase other than 'step up' ?

[Bornadog]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

We really need this group to ...can someone help me with a phrase other than 'step up' ?

Perform week in week out with some consistency and contribute to a winning team.

[Sedat]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

Or perhaps how underhandedly they work deals to be able to keep players there (Mr Visy Ambassador, anyone?)

Care to explain how Norf kept Andrew Swallow and Todd Goldstein in successive years? Both were even higher up the GWS priority list than Ward.

It's hard to accept but the simple fact is that our club screwed up. The 'system' has been in place for every club, but only one team has lost two 200+ game players who were both U-23 to the expansion clubs.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

Care to explain how Norf kept Andrew Swallow and Todd Goldstein in successive years? Both were even higher up the GWS priority list than Ward.

It's hard to accept but the simple fact is that our club screwed up. The 'system' has been in place for every club, but only one team has lost two 200+ game players who were both U-23 to the expansion clubs.

So we should have done some backroom deal? Handed them a free house in Seddon on top of their salary. Surely this would make us as bad as them.

[azabob]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

Care to explain how Norf kept Andrew Swallow and Todd Goldstein in successive years? Both were even higher up the GWS priority list than Ward.

It's hard to accept but the simple fact is that our club screwed up. The 'system' has been in place for every club, but only one team has lost two 200+ game players who were both U-23 to the expansion clubs.

So we should have done some backroom deal? Handed them a free house in Seddon on top of their salary. Surely this would make us as bad as them.

North could not afford a back room deal.

[GVGjr]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

So we should have done some backroom deal? Handed them a free house in Seddon on top of their salary. Surely this would make us as bad as them.

There is no need for a back room deal if you manage the list well and be aware of the warning signs. North identified that they had a couple of guys that would be likely targets and got on the front foot and signed them before it dragged out too long. Nothing sleazy about that. I believe the initial offer made an offer to Ward undervalued him and that got the ball rolling. Our next offer was substantially better but by then GWS had realised he was more open to hearing from them.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

Care to explain how Norf kept Andrew Swallow and Todd Goldstein in successive years? Both were even higher up the GWS priority list than Ward.

It's hard to accept but the simple fact is that our club screwed up. The 'system' has been in place for every club, but only one team has lost two 200+ game players who were both U-23 to the expansion clubs.

I am not convinced the club screwed up with Ward's departure. The fault lies with the AFL in allowing younger players like Ward, Scully and Davis to be offered ridiculous sums of money without serving an adequate time with their original clubs.The continuing National expansion will continue to make our lack of financial resources difficult to compete in the future. Lack of membership growth remains our Achilles heel. I know the character of Andrew Swallow and his loyalty to North is to be admired and he is one that wouldn't be swayed by the almighty dollar. North's recruiting of players would appear better than ours and this is an area that be need to become a lot smarter at.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

Anyway, getting back to the thread. Terry's claim is looking a bit dubious at the moment. Our team is not weak relative to number of games played. It is where it is at the development arc. With Sherman, Djekurra, Grant and Jones, Cordy, and Dahlhaus,our crew is on the younger side, untested largely across an entire season. Give us a full year to prove where we are at before you spit on the sons of the West Terry. And Yes Wallet, we are better than Melbourne, despite the fruits of their tanking.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

Does anyone seriously believe Ward's worth 4.5 for 5 years?
Silly Silly Money! Maybe just maybe he and his manager knew with the new teams in mind, they could hang out for big money.
At the moment we're paying for Clayton draft fails and the loss of senior players from our top 4 teams. Honestly how you can judge a young player on limited experience is minblowingly silly

[Sedat]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

I am not convinced the club screwed up with Ward's departure. The fault lies with the AFL in allowing younger players like Ward, Scully and Davis to be offered ridiculous sums of money without serving an adequate time with their original clubs.

There would not have been any ridiculous sums of money thrusted in Ward's direction had we bedded his contract extension down in mid 2010 as he wanted to do. We were too smart by half and it bit us on the arse big time 18 months later. The great irony is that we could have secured him for far less in mid 2010 than what we ultimately offered him in late 2011 to stay.

It's all academic now, but our list management has been a shambles in the last few seasons. One can only hope that Jason McCartney can stem the bleeding inflicted on our list.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

I am not convinced the club screwed up with Ward's departure. The fault lies with the AFL in allowing younger players like Ward, Scully and Davis to be offered ridiculous sums of money without serving an adequate time with their original clubs.The continuing National expansion will continue to make our lack of financial resources difficult to compete in the future. Lack of membership growth remains our Achilles heel. I know the character of Andrew Swallow and his loyalty to North is to be admired and he is one that wouldn't be swayed by the almighty dollar. North's recruiting of players would appear better than ours and this is an area that be need to become a lot smarter at.

The AFL rules re: the start ups were disgusting, no two ways about it; but we did right royally stuff up the Ward deal ourselves

[LostDoggy]

Re: Terry Wallace says - Current team Weakest since 1996 team.

Dahlhaus had no real attributes that stood out according to all reports, including his kicking.. Dont see anything holding little Dahl back Smith might just follow in Lukes footsteps.. Hoping he does anyway

From the moment he played in the vfl reserves reports were that he was the hungriest young player people had seen in years