Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

I always thought it was short kicks to a contest that were counted as ineffective and long kicks were counted as OK, unless they went directly to the opposition.

I'm pretty certain this is correct.

I think any kick over approx 40 metres is classified a long kick. Although if it goes nowhere near a teammate and straight to the opposition it's still classified a clanger.

[Bornadog]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

If I remember it correctly the Pies had a stronger second half so the stats are slightly in their favour , we had only 35 clangers they had 51 an indication of our pressure , we had 156 contested possessions they had 164 just got ahead in the second half , we had 38 clearances they had 44 again just got ahead in the second half , we made 69 tackles they made 79 again an example of them being able to break and find space , now keep in mind that our rotations were affected when Wood went off , with a better second half with Wood injury free there is every chance we could have taken them

All the stats are from the AFL page under the individual game listed in Advanced Stats

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Looking at the season Stats:

Stat..........Rank.Dogs...........Geelong

* Disposals - 1st,.... 11th

* Contested Possessions 1st,.... 12th

* Contested Marks, 4th...16th

* Hit Outs, 5th....10th

*Tackles, 3rd....2nd

*Inside 50, 4th....9th

* Marks inside 50, 14th ....3rd

Good chance to knock them off.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Looking at the season Stats:

Stat..........Rank.Dogs...........Geelong

* Disposals - 1st,.... 11th

* Contested Possessions 1st,.... 12th

* Contested Marks, 4th...16th

* Hit Outs, 5th....10th

*Tackles, 3rd....2nd

*Inside 50, 4th....9th

* Marks inside 50, 14th ....3rd

Good chance to knock them off.

Stats are normally big fat liars but those tell a few truths.

We are awesome at winning the contested and getting the ball inside 50. They have struggled to win the contested ball all season.

Thing is despite the lack of inside 50s and contested ball, we are both 4-4 with the Cats having the harder draw. They can have far less contested possies and inside 50s and still perform at a higher level than we do. That's the massive worry about tomorrow. We need to not just win the contested possies or inside 50s, we need to smash them and then also go another cog with our disposal.

[The Pie Man]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Stats are normally big fat liars but those tell a few truths.

We are awesome at winning the contested and getting the ball inside 50. They have struggled to win the contested ball all season.

Thing is despite the lack of inside 50s and contested ball, we are both 4-4 with the Cats having the harder draw. They can have far less contested possies and inside 50s and still perform at a higher level than we do. That's the massive worry about tomorrow. We need to not just win the contested possies or inside 50s, we need to smash them and then also go another cog with our disposal.

Notice how everyone jumped all over North after losing to us....they were called very disappointing in some sections of the media, and it honestly did feel like we smashed them in certain areas.

We won by 3 goals.

Encouraging to see improvement and our willingness to compete, but we need to get a LOT better with the ball in our hands.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

I know it may not be our focus...But if we are to make the Top 8 by Season's end, we have to win this week OR next week IMO...

[Bornadog]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Stats are normally big fat liars but those tell a few truths.

We are awesome at winning the contested and getting the ball inside 50. They have struggled to win the contested ball all season.

Thing is despite the lack of inside 50s and contested ball, we are both 4-4 with the Cats having the harder draw. They can have far less contested possies and inside 50s and still perform at a higher level than we do. That's the massive worry about tomorrow. We need to not just win the contested possies or inside 50s, we need to smash them and then also go another cog with our disposal.

Marks inside 50 is a big concern for us.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Notice how everyone jumped all over North after losing to us....they were called very disappointing in some sections of the media, and it honestly did feel like we smashed them in certain areas.

We won by 3 goals.

Encouraging to see improvement and our willingness to compete, but we need to get a LOT better with the ball in our hands.

Basically we have to work way too hard for our goals.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Who do we tag?[/B]

Sides have been putting more attention in forward tags on HB rebounders Enright and Mackie. Perhaps Picken can go to one, not sure about the other. Grant or Dickson? I have doubts about their tank. We could try to make one of them accountable by playing a goal scoring threat who we target like Higgins or Gia. I am a bit worried about how damaging their HBs are and how our small forwards don't have great tanks..

Great Preview Rocco,

the bit above I think is going to be the critical battle that will go along way toward determining the result tomorrow night.

Given our strength this season at and around the contest, I expect us to win lots of ball. However our inability to convert what has been a plethora of ball inside our forward 50 into scoreboard pressure has been well documented. I can foresee based on this that Mackie and Enright could potentially carve us up on the rebound all night long unless we devise a successful plan to diminish their impact.

Picken is our best bet to lock down one, but I'm with you Rocco, I'm not sure we have another lockdown type who we can play on the other, perhaps we have to rotate a couple of our more potentially scoreboard impacting types on one. Gia, Higgins or Dickson may not have the 4 Qtr tank to do it, but perhaps rotating these types through that position throughout the game and keeping them fresh may be an option.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Picken is our best bet to lock down one, but I'm with you Rocco, I'm not sure we have another lockdown type who we can play on the other, perhaps we have to rotate a couple of our more otentially scoreboard impacting types on one. Gia, Higgins or Dickson may not have the 4 Qtr tank to do it, but perhaps rotating these types through that position throughout the game and keeping them fresh may be an option.

Yep. Would love to see Grant have a bit of a crack at one of the jobs as well. Really hope Scarlett isn't fit and firing as he alongside Mackie and Enright would love how we enter our forward line.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

B-Mac on 360 all but confirming Picken will play on Selwood.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

B-Mac on 360 all but confirming Picken will play on Selwood.

Well I sure as heck hope somehow during the week our forward line has found the Rosetta stone and have deciphered how to read the ball coming into their area, because if they haven't it's going to be flying down the other end with alarming speed.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

But didn't you also have us being 8-2 after 10 rounds??

If that's the case should we be really listening to you?

Yes pre-season I did give us a chance of a good start.

I thought we could beat West Coast (and we had chances despite the margin), Adelaide (again had chances plus Adelaide are better than I thought) and St Kilda (when we were just atrocious with our turnovers).

This was the game I gave us no chance in.

While we haven't done as well as I expected, we are going much better than many predicted.

[F'scary]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

thanks Rocco, good coverage of the opposition too. Great thread, thoroughly enjoyed the read.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Good read Rocco

Like you I'd be surprised if we one this one.

[westdog54]

Re: Round 9 Match Preview: Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

But didn't you also have us being 8-2 after 10 rounds??

If that's the case should we be really listening to you?

If you're talking about this thread, then a couple of things:

1. BJ had us potentially winning 6 from our first 8, and picked us to beat Adelaide, StKilda, Melbourne, GC and GWS, with one of the others being possibly winnable;
2. The Geelong game wasn't even raised in this thread.

So by my reckoning, of the 5 wins he did pick us for we've won 3 of them, and we've also one won of the other 3.

He also was referring to the negativity that existed in general on the board prior to round 1.

You used to be a great contributor to this forum but quite frankly your incessant negativity and belittling questions that you fire at otherwise meaningful contributions are becoming a bit tired. I thought you were better than that.

And if you're going to take cheap shots at a moderator of all people, at least make the effort to look the thread up and get your facts straight.