Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

I used Boyd to illustrate what Sherman can't do.... hold on to the ball under physical pressure and either break away from the traffic, or take the body contact and force a stoppage or a hand-off to a player in a better position. I agree that Boyd's use of the ball in space is not damaging, but neither was Stevie J tonight, who I thought was given way too much credit by the commentators as he regularly turned it over or failed to kick to his team's advantage.

Sherman frustrates me because I think he has the attributes to be a game breaker. Mostly though, he is a non-event who flashes into the odd game with an occasional eye-catching goal. I don't like to routinely knock players but I had high hopes when we acquired Sherman and he had bitterly disappointed.

Can't argue with any of this but Sherman is one of those players, like Motlop and Stokes, who look better in good teams as they finish off the good work of others. In middling teams like ours they are a bit of a luxury that don't represent good value, but all top teams need some cream on top of the cake. Hopefully when we are in areal position to challenge in a couple of years Sherman will be a nice bit of scoreboard impact.

[Mantis]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

It's a bloody good question. You have to wonder after watching tonight's game and their newly found, bruise-free style of footy.

The game, it's rules and it's officiating has so much to answer for.

But is it the player or the system?... But watching talented and respected players trying to scab frees isn't what the game is (or should be) about.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

I did,nt really rate Geelong on current form as a well oiled machine , the media do and after tonight they still will , I on the other hand still don,t

We had them against the ropes for long periods but just couldn,t punch them hard enough or often enough to knock them down , it really did come down to the first 15min and the last 15min , as one of the fittest sides they can really push at the end but to our guys credit we hung in and did,nt look like a side coming off a 6 day break after playing in Darwin

Our use of the wings was just appalling , total shambles , hated it when we chose to swing wide , Geelong just slide across and got numbers in the corridor on the turnover , when we committed to using the corridor ourselves we were able to open them up but too often the kick into the forward 50 was from 70 or 60m , Macca will be boiling with the number of times we threw away the pivotal part of the game plan where the ball carrier gets to the 50m arc and either kicks the goal or hits a target

I liked how Dickson drove Scarlett bonkers , if our supply was better he could have kicked 3 or 4 and Scarlett might have punched him at least once

Griffen was frustrated by the 4th quarter, he just couldn,t get clear

Boyd has to set fire to his kicking boots , they are the wrong size and are well past their use by date , some nice shiny new ones that can only kick 30m to a target would be perfect

Well , if Jones was going to be rested this week then I,m assuming he gets rested next week , took a while to get space and time his marks , kicked a great goal from 45 on an angle but we wont talk about the other one

Lake and Austin were very good against Hawkins and Pod , the support for them fell away a bit at the end and Hawkins and Pod got some cheap ones

Apparently if you touch or tackle Stevie J you get a Voo Doo curse put on family or the plague or be pested by ants for a week or lose your wallet and keys , how else do you explain why he can have the entire ground to himself

Once again its like being groped by a poltergeist , you know what happened but you can,t blame anyone

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[SonofScray]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

On the radio the callers were going on about J Selwood's courage and the universal respect he has from the football world. I would just like to say I do not think he is a brave footballer at all, nor do I have respect for him. I am of the view that he is a cheat and was furthermore disappointed by his antics in appealing for free kicks all night tonight.

Doesn't count for much in the grand scheme of things but I just felt like throwing that out there.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Just lacked that polish again. We continue to work our arses off to get a goal and Geelong walk it from end to end for an easy one. It'll come with time and once we mold as a group it will help a lot.

In regards to them I think they're on their downward turn. I'd be very, very surprised to see them in the prelims this year. They're still a strong outfit but not a threat for the big one as far as I'm concerned.

[Eastdog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Cant fault the effort from our team tonight. Its frustrating though as this match reminds me so much of the match against Collingwood in that we were hanging in there for most of the night but just could not do it. I don't believe in honourable losses. A win is a win, a loss is a loss. The reality is we did not get the 4 points but we are doing alright with the players we have.

[always right]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

I wanted to see players developing this season. I'm seeing it and I'm content for the moment. Some good signs.

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Have the Geelong players become a bunch of primmadonnas?

So many of their players look for a free kick at every contest.

They also don't go in hard at the ball. So many times they looked timid when their was a contest.

On the way home listening to David Parkin he said Geelong are in trouble in a few years time as all their young midfielders are outside types and they don'y have any inside players to take over from the older players.

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

On the radio the callers were going on about J Selwood's courage and the universal respect he has from the football world. I would just like to say I do not think he is a brave footballer at all, nor do I have respect for him. I am of the view that he is a cheat and was furthermore disappointed by his antics in appealing for free kicks all night tonight.

Doesn't count for much in the grand scheme of things but I just felt like throwing that out there.

Picken really nullified him and he had no influence on the game. I noticed each time he was tackled tried to throw his head back to get a free.

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Overall, I think our biggest problem is not the forward line but rather our disposal and hitting targets. Geelong did this so well tonight, they were definitely more efficient with the ball, and their deliver was so much better.

We are number one in the AFL for Disposals and contested possession, but we just can't use the ball and we give no chance to our forward line. eg. Kicking a high ball to Gia who is being covered by Mackie, what bloody chance does he have.

[Hotdog60]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

We all knew this was going to be a hard slog. But what I've seen so far this year has been very encouraging.

I was a Eade fan and I saw him as the man to rebuild and have another crack at a final. Well Macca has turned me around and I like the way he is taking the team, if I have one gripe it's the use of the same old cliché' but then again he get asked the same questions.

This year we are being taken for a ride which is one of development and growth and I think we could see the rewards of what has been sown as early as next year if not at the end of this one.

At the moment we are in the contest and due to some factors at times in the game we don't make the most of it. But at least we aren't being blown away by the 100 point scenario.

Things must be pointing in the right directions because of the disappointment in the people on this forum when we loose, I wonder if some of those posters had us written off at the start and saw us with a winning margin like Melbourne. If they still felt that way would they be expressing their disappointment now. We are not that far off and times are looking good for the future.

[Sedat]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Sherman frustrates me because I think he has the attributes to be a game breaker. Mostly though, he is a non-event who flashes into the odd game with an occasional eye-catching goal. I don't like to routinely knock players but I had high hopes when we acquired Sherman and he had bitterly disappointed.

Sherman was utterly deplorable. His role in the team is to provide run and carry, something that we are desperately short of, and last night he failed miserably on that score. His decision making with ball in hand also stunk it up but that's not a surprise.

[GVGjr]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

I wanted to see players developing this season. I'm seeing it and I'm content for the moment. Some good signs.

Same here. While we all want to see wins on the board the improvement across some of the guys is encouraging. I still don't hold high hopes for us this season but outside of the StKilda game there has been some positives in most others.

[GVGjr]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Sherman was utterly deplorable. His role in the team is to provide run and carry, something that we are desperately short of, and last night he failed miserably on that score. His decision making with ball in hand also stunk it up but that's not a surprise.

I have been a critic of Sherman but despite his efforts last night I hope we stick with him. I just have a feeling that he is close to putting in a couple of good games and we do need the run that he can supply.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R9 Western Bulldogs vs Geelong

Sherman was utterly deplorable. His role in the team is to provide run and carry, something that we are desperately short of, and last night he failed miserably on that score. His decision making with ball in hand also stunk it up but that's not a surprise.

Who was his direct man? Was it Motlop?