Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

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  • Mofra
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    • Dec 2006
    • 14950

    #31
    Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

    Originally posted by BornAScragger
    Besides, I'm a little sick of the “Bring in Panos!” hysterics. If he warranted a spot he should have it by now.
    Ditto - he is a good kick of the football but I haven't seen much to suggest he'll get it very much at AFL level.
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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      #32
      Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

      What's everyones thoughts on Moles? If he has another good game on the weekend, I think he deserves another crack.

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      • The Bulldogs Bite
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        • Dec 2006
        • 11246

        #33
        Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

        Originally posted by bulldogsman
        What's everyones thoughts on Moles? If he has another good game on the weekend, I think he deserves another crack.
        I seem to go on record for saying that I rate him, but he's fallen off the radar. He did, however, have a big second half in the Williamstown game last week.

        The game kind of emphasized why he's a frustrating player. He was really sloppy at times, but after he KO'd that big bloke, he went on to have a ripping game.

        He's what we need, but effort seems inconsistent and he struggles to find enough of the ball at AFL level. If he puts in another good performance, he'd have to be close though.
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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #34
          Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

          Out: Higgs boson(as yet unsighted) or Gia, Pearce

          In: Sherman or Grant or DJ or Howard

          Maybe some rotation policy between Cordy, Rough and Jones should be put in place.
          Grant shouldn't be considered a tall.

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14950

            #35
            Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

            Originally posted by bulldogsman
            What's everyones thoughts on Moles? If he has another good game on the weekend, I think he deserves another crack.
            I think he plays like and AFL player for up to 3/4s then plays like a VFL player for 1/4+.
            We may use him this year because he does provide some run, yet is not too outside for B-Mac to shun him.
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            • DOG GOD
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jul 2007
              • 6545

              #36
              Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

              No way Gia will get dropped...too much of a love child...only way he's out of the team is if he's injured...won't ever get dropped regarding form.
              I will never see #16 the same!!

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #37
                Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Yep.

                I thought Gia struggled too against Geelong, but ended with 3 goals, gained mainly by his smarts. His ability to influence a contest and apply pressure is very poor.

                Can't believe we gave him a 2yr contract last year.
                I have always stood up for Gia, I really believe he has been underrated in what he has done the last few years by not only other clubs supporters, but also some of most passionate and loyal fans.

                Just last year Gia was copping alot of flack, but when you look at his stats for last year compared to Milne who made the All Australian Team.
                Gia 45 Goals (2.3 Ave) Milne 56 Goals (2.4 Ave), Gia Ave Dispoals 18.2 Milne 14.4, both had 20 goal assists. Gia played 3 less games.
                Not saying he deserved a spot over Milne in the side, however he should have atleast been in the top 40.

                Given this form i'm not at all suprised he recieved a 2 year deal last year. Truth be told he probably deserved it.

                Onto this year however, boy has he really gone downhill. He is officially cooked. Stick a fork in him, he's done.
                I can no longer defend him. If he doesn't mark the ball in a contest then it's all over. Given our inability to look where we are kicking into the forward 50, he has no hope.

                I also notice he seems to be sucking in the big ones basically half way through the first quarter. Then for the remainder of the match after any contest. He's fitness during pre season was still pretty good i thought? Perhaps he's carrying some sort of injury.

                Injury or no injury, he shouldn't be playing.

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #38
                  Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

                  Originally posted by Jaytee
                  I have always stood up for Gia, I really believe he has been underrated in what he has done the last few years by not only other clubs supporters, but also some of most passionate and loyal fans.

                  Injury or no injury, he shouldn't be playing.
                  He played well against Collingwood. Gave Harry O a few grey hairs in that black mop of his. However, watching him jog well behind flying swans last week made for bitter viewing.
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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15447

                    #39
                    Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

                    Originally posted by Jaytee
                    I have always stood up for Gia, I really believe he has been underrated in what he has done the last few years by not only other clubs supporters, but also some of most passionate and loyal fans.

                    Just last year Gia was copping alot of flack, but when you look at his stats for last year compared to Milne who made the All Australian Team.
                    Gia 45 Goals (2.3 Ave) Milne 56 Goals (2.4 Ave), Gia Ave Dispoals 18.2 Milne 14.4, both had 20 goal assists. Gia played 3 less games. Not saying he deserved a spot over Milne in the side, however he should have atleast been in the top 40.

                    Given this form i'm not at all suprised he recieved a 2 year deal last year. Truth be told he probably deserved it.

                    Onto this year however, boy has he really gone downhill. He is officially cooked. Stick a fork in him, he's done.
                    I can no longer defend him. If he doesn't mark the ball in a contest then it's all over. Given our inability to look where we are kicking into the forward 50, he has no hope.

                    I also notice he seems to be sucking in the big ones basically half way through the first quarter. Then for the remainder of the match after any contest. He's fitness during pre season was still pretty good i thought? Perhaps he's carrying some sort of injury.

                    Injury or no injury, he shouldn't be playing.
                    On form he did deserve a 2yr extension, but at 28 or 29 and with his physical make-up we had to go conservative and give him a 1yr deal with the option of another year if he met some key criteria.

                    There was talk that we had initially offered a 1yr deal, but we didn't close out the deal and are now in the position where we have to nurse him through for another 18 months.

                    Another case of poor list management.

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                    • Desipura
                      WOOF Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4344

                      #40
                      Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      On form he did deserve a 2yr extension, but at 28 or 29 and with his physical make-up we had to go conservative and give him a 1yr deal with the option of another year if he met some key criteria.

                      There was talk that we had initially offered a 1yr deal, but we didn't close out the deal and are now in the position where we have to nurse him through for another 18 months.

                      Another case of poor list management
                      .
                      Well I saw this being an issue before we signed him (mentioned it at the time), surely those in the know could see the writing on the wall?
                      Its not as if clubs were lining up to sign him up?

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                      • JohnGentStand
                        WOOF Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 290

                        #41
                        Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

                        Ins - Grant , Sherman , Moles

                        Outs - Pierce , Gia , Libba

                        - all form based selections, Grant aside ( not sure why he is out ?)
                        It's the 1st time I have ever called for the axe on Gia, but it is deserved.
                        I would love to elevate Jones, but boy he was average for Willy. Redpath showed plenty more.
                        I think we can cover the ground a lot better with these inclusions and still be good inside.
                        Smith an option also for Moles but he kicks 9 irons.
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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11248

                          #42
                          Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

                          Originally posted by JohnGentStand
                          Ins - Grant , Sherman , Moles

                          Outs - Pierce , Gia , Libba
                          Libba out on form? Are you kidding? He was one of our best against Geelong (I actually voted for him as BOG in the Marmo) and has been in very good form the month prior after a slowish start in the first couple of weeks. He was poor on Sunday but he had about 20 mates.
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                          • JohnGentStand
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                            • Feb 2011
                            • 290

                            #43
                            Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

                            Libba was uber poor against Sydney. He looked like a boy who needs a rest. If we are a young list then form should dictate selection. Dahlhouse looked tired also, but gave a tad more than Tom.
                            I'm paying money, the girl's happy, she's got no money, I got my rocks off, how good is this...

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                            • Sedat
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 11248

                              #44
                              Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

                              Originally posted by JohnGentStand
                              Libba was uber poor against Sydney. He looked like a boy who needs a rest. If we are a young list then form should dictate selection. Dahlhouse looked tired also, but gave a tad more than Tom.
                              He was rested/injured for the Melbourne game and then came back as the sub against GWS and played less than half that game. He doesn't need another rest, and he'll be getting one with the bye in any event.

                              Even though he was poor on Sunday, he still extracted some quality clearances by hand in the 2nd half - I much prefer these clearances than the 'throw it on the boot and make it someone else's problem' style preferred by pretty much everyone else in our midfield on Sunday.
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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11841

                                #45
                                Re: Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

                                Originally posted by JohnGentStand
                                Libba was uber poor against Sydney. He looked like a boy who needs a rest. If we are a young list then form should dictate selection. Dahlhouse looked tired also, but gave a tad more than Tom.
                                Would the bye not suffice as a rest?
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