Match Committee- Round 12 vs Port Adelaide

[azabob]

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Ok my selections for this weeks game

In: Jones- Performance at Willy warrants selection and our best option at CHF IMO.
DJ- Forward pressure has been missed.

Out: Zephi- Can't see what he offers ATM
Roughead- Team balance

Slim, Skinner was a late withdrawal against the swans.

[SonofScray]

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I rate Ward as a typical youngster who from year one would have done anything he was asked to by the coach and it wasn't until his 3rd year he felt confident that he could put his hand up for specific roles within the side.

And beyond.

[SlimPickens]

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Slim, Skinner was a late withdrawal against the swans.

Cheers for that... Pearce out

[Missing Dog]

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On the 17 year olds not sure who they are, I do know like last year there is only 2 available.

There's 3 standouts for mine

Jesse Hogan - Key forward. Could be the next Jonathon Brown and plays a lot like him. Love his attack on the ball
Jack Martin - Key forward. Only seen highlights, Skinny and fast. Lance Franklin type. Looks to be a pretty special player.
Matt Crouch - Midfielder. Plays a lot like his brother Brad. Very good on the inside, but he has the class to play on the outside. Has a nice burst of speed.

The question is what would you give up for one of these? GWS may need ruckman, would you give up Roughead + pick? I'd like us to have a good go at Hogan, I think he will be a great player.

[Missing Dog]

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In Jones, Smith
Out Roughead, Pearce

I'd let DJ come back through Willy, he's missed too much footy.
Wanted Howard in, but I have not liked his last two games for Willy.
Jones and Smith I think are the two most deserving ins.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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In Jones, Smith
Out Roughead, Pearce

I'd let DJ come back through Willy, he's missed too much footy.
Wanted Howard in, but I have not liked his last two games for Willy.
Jones and Smith I think are the two most deserving ins.

I second this, although will Smith be right to go after his concussion?

[Ghost Dog]

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Roberts was simply too tall for his opponents on the YT clip you added. He plucked the marks from behind with little to no body contact on him which of course won't happen at the senior level and by the way this is not an issue about his tank.
I don't know of many AFL forwards who can consistently kick goals by playing from behind. Most get there by wrestling their way to the front of their opponent or by beating them on the lead. These are simply not traits that Roberts exhibited as a forward in the junior level. The answer the club decided to explore is to use him as a defender where he will simply have to learn to get in front and be prepared to wrestle with his opponents or run the risk of having multiple goals kicked on him. I think the club has done a good job at developing him.

[B]As for the accusations of me playing the man not the ball and if you are not allowed to express a view to me you couldn't be further off the mark.

It's one bit of vision and I think you are rather overemphasizing one marking passage. Just like the even spread of his skills and the amount of weight he has put on is impressive in such a short space of time. 5 goals in a TAC grand final is nothing to sneeze at. I really don't understand the last sentence as the grammar doesn't make sense. Anyway, moving forward, as Julia would say.

[AndrewP6]

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It's one bit of vision and I think you are rather overemphasizing one marking passage. Just like the even spread of his skills and the amount of weight he has put on is impressive in such a short space of time. 5 goals in a TAC grand final is nothing to sneeze at. I really don't understand the last sentence as the grammar doesn't make sense. Anyway, moving forward, as Julia would say.

He's saying your claims of him 'playing the man', and of people not being allowed to express an opinion, are untrue.

[GVGjr]

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It's one bit of vision and I think you are rather overemphasizing one marking passage. Just like the even spread of his skills and the amount of weight he has put on is impressive in such a short space of time. 5 goals in a TAC grand final is nothing to sneeze at. I really don't understand the last sentence as the grammar doesn't make sense. Anyway, moving forward, as Julia would say.

I was there for that GF, and if I recall correctly, he spent the first half of the match at half back. Then moved up forward to kick the 5 goals that turned and sealed the match for his side. A really good performance all round.

[Ghost Dog]

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He's saying your claims of him 'playing the man', and of people not being allowed to express an opinion, are untrue.

GVG can stand up for himself don't you think AP6?

while you want everything written about the players by everyone here to be ultra positive some of us are also capable of acknowledging flaws in players game in a non negative manner.

I never said he played the man with 'people'. With Great respect to GVG, who is our moderator, and I respect that, I said he did it in a specific post above FYI. I do not want everything written about the players by everyone to be positive. That is incorrect and in referring to a person's posting in general rather than sticking to the argument at hand, that's playing the man. 'some of us' above refers I assume to ' we who know better' , ' we who are in the know'. Well ' some of us' are welcome to have their opinion and I'm welcome to mine. I have donate money, am involved in Bulldogs events and am a member. So if I think Fletcher Roberts could be a fantastic forward chance, I'll say it, based on what I've seen at Willy, and what I've heard about him. Others rate him highly and I've noticed one poster above who also thinks the same.

[AndrewP6]

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GVG can stand up for himself don't you think AP6?

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I'm certain he can, I was just trying to clear the air.

[Greystache]

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Thankfully the round of footy is coming and this thread may move on.

3 players added to the squad- Jones, Smith, Skinner

[GVGjr]

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It's one bit of vision and I think you are rather overemphasizing one marking passage. Just like the even spread of his skills and the amount of weight he has put on is impressive in such a short space of time. 5 goals in a TAC grand final is nothing to sneeze at. I really don't understand the last sentence as the grammar doesn't make sense. Anyway, moving forward, as Julia would say.

It's the clip you added to defend your statement about why we don't play footballers where they were drafted ie drafted as a forward and played asap defender. While you are now minimizing what the clip contains (because it now suits argument) I actually saw Roberts play on 4 or 5 occasions last season and the clip is indicative of him often playing from behind and out marking his opponents with his height. I'm sure the coaches at Williamstown will be teaching him how they want him to play and I see him being used as a defender this year as a positive.

As for you seeing Williamstown a lot would it be fair to say that it's mostly the televised games you are basing your views on that and maybe one game in Ballarat?

[GVGjr]

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GVG can stand up for himself don't you think AP6?

I never said he played the man with 'people'. .

You obviously think I targeted you and you are wanting me to 'stand up' for myself and respond but I've already tried to explain that I didn't target you and I wasn't playing the man (you). It's up to you if you accept that but your statement above would indicate that you're still feeling like a victim. I'm not sure what more I can do to convince you otherwise but if you are still set in that view then that's your choice.

For someone who went to great lengths to explain their contributions to the club and how that gives you the right to express your views, your little dig at AndrewP6 isn't actually one that encourages discussions.

[Bornadog]

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Thankfully the round of footy is coming and this thread may move on.

3 players added to the squad- Jones, Smith, Skinner

Is that official?