Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

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  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501

    #31
    Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

    Marko played last week in The Vfl trained strongly this week we must play him against
    The Bombers we are going to get smashed if we have the same Backline like we did yesterday.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44634

      #32
      Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

      Originally posted by Max469
      I said exactly this yesterday.

      Like all of us I hate losing but realistically our season is all but over. Don't tank because it is cheating but at least give the kids a run to gain experience.
      We have been doing that all season regardless by picking the best side each week. The main difference though is that Roughead, Cordy, Howard Smith, Wallis, Libertore and Dickson have earned their spots rather than just being given a free pass. Grant however, has been made to earn his chances. In my way of thinking, that is the far better option than just picking guys based more on their age than their results and effort.
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      • Sedat
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2007
        • 11245

        #33
        Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

        Originally posted by Pickenitup
        Marko played last week in The Vfl trained strongly this week we must play him against
        The Bombers we are going to get smashed if we have the same Backline like we did yesterday.
        If Markovic is deemed by our conditioning staff to be able to withstand the rigours of 120 minutes at the higenst level, he would be worth consideration this week - he has towelled up Hurley a couple of times already in his short career to date and it will free up Lake to give us his customary attacking drive.
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        • Maddog37
          WOOF Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3132

          #34
          Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          We have been doing that all season regardless by picking the best side each week. The main difference though is that Roughead, Cordy, Howard Smith, Wallis, Libertore and Dickson have earned their spots rather than just being given a free pass. Grant however, has been made to earn his chances. In my way of thinking, that is the far better option than just picking guys based more on their age than their results and effort.


          I agree on this but by the same token some players deserve to be dropped for lack of effort or lack of ability and hence someone needs to take their place. Subsequently I would like to see the people taking those spots be players with a future.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44634

            #35
            Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

            Originally posted by Maddog37
            I agree on this but by the same token some players deserve to be dropped for lack of effort or lack of ability and hence someone needs to take their place. Subsequently I would like to see the people taking those spots be players with a future.
            Let's say as an example Grant has been half arsed. Would you still want him played at the expense of an older guy who has already been setting the example for his younger team mates? I wouldn't. We don't reward people just because they are young. Young and lazy won't take the club forward. Young and dedicated might be a different story but I still believe form should be the main consideration.
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            • Maddog37
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3132

              #36
              Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Let's say as an example Grant has been half arsed. Would you still want him played at the expense of an older guy who has already been setting the example for his younger team mates? I wouldn't. We don't reward people just because they are young. Young and lazy won't take the club forward. Young and dedicated might be a different story but I still believe form should be the main consideration.

              If the example is to not chase and look dispirited then yes I would rather a kid get a chance even if it is a bit before time.

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              • Sockeye Salmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6365

                #37
                Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

                Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                Then we run into Freo, Hawks, Carlton & StKilda. by our last month I cant see any good coming out of these games unless we declare the season over and just play all the kids, we need to get away from the days with Rocket and base games on performance not reputations.

                I would rather get flogged and be blooding the kids than getting flogged and playing guys on the way out.
                What a load of crap.

                Who did Rocket play that McCartney hasn't? Hudson? Gilbee has been injured nearly all season.

                Rocket played 10 debutants last year.

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #38
                  Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

                  Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                  What a load of crap.

                  Who did Rocket play that McCartney hasn't? Hudson? Gilbee has been injured nearly all season.

                  Rocket played 10 debutants last year.
                  Mitch Hahn had a long line of credit. Rocket's words. But in general, agree.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44634

                    #39
                    Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

                    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                    What a load of crap.

                    Who did Rocket play that McCartney hasn't? Hudson? Gilbee has been injured nearly all season.

                    Rocket played 10 debutants last year.
                    Rockets problem was more around not letting players go when he should. Hahn played two seasons too many and one of them was as a mature aged rookie for goodness sake. Eagleton was played at least one season too many and the same with Aker. I get the reasons why he did but it wasn't great for the club.
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66700

                      #40
                      Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

                      Originally posted by Maddog37
                      I agree on this but by the same token some players deserve to be dropped for lack of effort or lack of ability and hence someone needs to take their place. Subsequently I would like to see the people taking those spots be players with a future.
                      Name the players who should be replaced and who will replace them.
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                      • Maddog37
                        WOOF Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3132

                        #41
                        Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

                        Cooney and Gia for lack of chasing. One of Boyd/Cross/Libva/Wallis for lack of speed.

                        In maybe Vez, DJ, Sheman and Tutt.

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13235

                          #42
                          Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

                          Our activated priority pick is looking better and better

                          OUT: Jones, Cooney, Smith, Austin, Addison

                          IN: Sherman, Shaggy, Vez, Markovic, Panos
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • The Pie Man
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2008
                            • 3497

                            #43
                            Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

                            In: Minson, Markovic, Panos, Ves

                            Out:

                            Campbell (unlucky, solid debut)
                            Addison (again unlucky, Austin needed more for balance)
                            Cordy
                            Cooney

                            I'd honestly rather drop Gia than Cooney - I'm no Gia hater, but we desperately need to address the lack of foot speed in the forward 50 (amongst other areas) - but you suspect Cooney may need to rest anyway.

                            Who seriously thinks Cordy will make it at FF?
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                            • Nuggety Back Pocket
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 2064

                              #44
                              Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

                              Originally posted by The Pie Man
                              In: Minson, Markovic, Panos, Ves

                              Out:

                              Campbell (unlucky, solid debut)
                              Addison (again unlucky, Austin needed more for balance)
                              Cordy
                              Cooney

                              I'd honestly rather drop Gia than Cooney - I'm no Gia hater, but we desperately need to address the lack of foot speed in the forward 50 (amongst other areas) - but you suspect Cooney may need to rest anyway.

                              Who seriously thinks Cordy will make it at FF?
                              Campbell's tap work was as good as we have seen this year and should be retained at Roughead's expense. I like the idea of bringing in Panos and playing him as a leading FF and bringing Cordy out to CHF. Austin has been more than serviceable and deserves to stay in the side. Djerrkura or Sherman would inject some badly needed pace at the expense of Cooney or Gia. Surprised you would retain Jones who has been very ordinary.

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                              • The Pie Man
                                Coaching Staff
                                • May 2008
                                • 3497

                                #45
                                Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

                                Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                                Campbell's tap work was as good as we have seen this year and should be retained at Roughead's expense. I like the idea of bringing in Panos and playing him as a leading FF and bringing Cordy out to CHF. Austin has been more than serviceable and deserves to stay in the side. Djerrkura or Sherman would inject some badly needed pace at the expense of Cooney or Gia. Surprised you would retain Jones who has been very ordinary.
                                I thought Roughead was ok yesterday, though I wouldn't be against Campbell playing ahead of him right now.

                                Cordy moving to CHF worries me more than at FF - he showed some signs against Port but I just can't buy him as anything other than a ruckman. Probably needs more time I know, but I feel like it's going to be time wasted.

                                Jones was poor, and I'd be very surprised to see him retained this week - I just feel he offers more than Cordy.

                                (I realise I'm being harsh on Ayce, so he'll probably be a superstar now...happened to Griffen for me )
                                Last edited by The Pie Man; 24-06-2012, 06:07 PM.
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