Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

The majority of posters seem to want Sherman and/or Vez in the side. I want them in the side but it seems like they were dropped as more of a statement of the style we want rather thaan their inability to be in our 'best 22'.

Sherman didn't set the world on fire in his couple of games for Willi and I am not sure if Vez played last week. Then this week Willi had the bye. I think it would be a bit of a backflip to play them.

I find the side so unbalanced that it is very difficult to accurately state ins and outs. We have at least one too many ruck/forward types. Our small forwards are too slow but they are the only ones adding something to the scoreboard. Our mids are one paced. The guys who add some leg speed or foot skills are seen as too 1D by B-Mac.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

In

Minson: Number one ruckman, in good form, automatic inclusion.

Hargrave: Was in good form before pulling up sore and will provide good leadership in the back half.

Djerrkura: Need some pace through the midfield and forward 50, DJ provides this.

Grant: Provides pace and marking ability in the forward line. Skillful player and is capable of a decent game if matched up on Essendon's 3rd best defender.

Hooper: Shown some good form in the VFL, only comes in if Boyd gets suspended.

Out

Campbell: Unlucky to miss but at the moment I see him as more of a genuine ruckman than a ruck/forward. Cordy and Jones weren't helped at all by the speed or delivery of our ball movement and Roughead did some nice things.

Addison: Has been soundly beaten the past two games and needs to find some form in the VFL.

Smith: Doesn't seem to be fit enough to run out a whole game at the intensity he plays with yet, but is not suited to the substitute role.

Cordy: Could use a spell at Williamstown, gives Roughead a chance to spend more time as a stay-at-home forward.

Boyd: If he gets suspended (unlikely).

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

What a load of crap.

Who did Rocket play that McCartney hasn't? Hudson? Gilbee has been injured nearly all season.

Rocket played 10 debutants last year.

I was more thinking along the lines that Rocket played guys injured and out of form, I recall Jonno being shot but still getting a game, Eagle, Hahn as other stated, Also Gia seemed to get a good go IMO,

McCartney is new and could make a statement now, Yes we don't have the cattle and I'm sure we would all agree on that one. But i hope he puts a few guys on notice and it wouldn't hurt to give the kids ago.

Players like Grant, Hooper, Moles, Mulligan, Skinner could be given a game with one message in mind, Earn you spot on the list for next year.

[Mantis]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

Players like Grant, Hooper, Moles, Mulligan, Skinner could be given a game with one message in mind, Earn you spot on the list for next year.

I'm pretty sure these players will get a game if they earn it.. The challenge is there in front of them.

[westbulldog]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

Outs
Jones Cordy Addison Cooney Boyd Gia

Ins
Hargrave DJ Minson Panos Sherman Grant

[AndrewP6]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

Outs
Jones Cordy Addison Cooney Boyd Gia

Ins
Hargrave DJ Minson Panos Sherman Grant

Joke post I'm assuming.

[westbulldog]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

Joke post I'm assuming.

far from it

[AndrewP6]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

far from it

You want three of our leaders including the captain, omitted after a bad loss?

[Missing-Dog]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

The last player I would drop is Boyd! He had a shocker, but you can put your money on it that Boyd will not let the team down again this season. Watch a 40 possession game from him Saturday night against the bombers. To make up for it.

I like Cambell and think maybe it's time to give 2 of cordy, Roughy and jones a rest. Would like to see grant back in as he is tallish but has the pace which could give some heAdaches.

Ins: Minson, grant, Sherman, hargrave

Outs: cordy, roughy, gia, cooney

[westbulldog]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

You want three of our leaders including the captain, omitted after a bad loss?

At the end of the day we have opinions, and that is what they are, opinions. You describe the performance as ""bad", I describe it as unacceptable - totally. People see things in a different light. I can't remember a worse capitulation.

[chef]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

In: Minson, Markovic, Panos, Ves

Out:

Campbell (unlucky, solid debut)
Addison (again unlucky, Austin needed more for balance)
Cordy
Cooney

I'd honestly rather drop Gia than Cooney - I'm no Gia hater, but we desperately need to address the lack of foot speed in the forward 50 (amongst other areas) - but you suspect Cooney may need to rest anyway.

Who seriously thinks Cordy will make it at FF?

Not as a stay at home all game forward. But he should turn into a decent 2ND ruck/forward. I was hoping he would turn into a Tippett type, but he looks more like a Hale type.

We need to stop playing two number one rucks, it's just over kill(I guess it would be different if they were guns like WCE have, but they're not) and robbing our team of run.

[Mantis]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

We need to stop playing two number one rucks, it's just over kill( I guess it would be different if they were guns like WCE have, but they're not) and robbing our team of run.

I get what you're saying, but the fact that our supposed running players (mids, flanker types) don't offer enough spread and run & carry is the main reason why we are struggling in this area.

[Sedat]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

Who seriously thinks Cordy will make it at FF?

After the Port game, I would have said the odds were better than 50/50. He absolutely ragdolled his opponents, and only his kicking for goal prevented a bag. He can get to contests well enough but his hands are letting him down - almost the mirror opposite of Jones.

We seem to have a plethora of key forward options on our list and all of them have some deficiency or another. It is making our list look very lop-sided carrying so many talls on the list at any given time - outside of Cordy, Roughead, Jones, Minson and Campbell, we also have T Hill, Redpath, Roberts, Panos, Mulligan and Talia. With so many speculative talls in the list (and all except for Minson are still speculative at this point in time), and with a number of mid sized forwards who all have questionable pace and inconsistent defensive output (Gia, Higgins, Dickson), is it any wonder why we have so few run and carry options with pace coming through and why our list looks completely lop-sided as a result.

[chef]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

I get what you're saying, but the fact that our supposed running players (mids, flanker types) don't offer enough spread and run & carry is the main reason why we are struggling in this area.

Are we playing too many 'crack in' types and not enough sheep dogs?

I guess it also comes down to the quality(and availability) of these sheep dogs. It's going to take a fair few drafts to fix our list, hope Dalrymple and J.McCartney are up to it.

[Mantis]

Re: Match Committee- Round 14 vs Essendon

Are we playing too many 'crack in' types and not enough sheep dogs?.

I guess it also comes down to the quality(and availability) of these sheep dogs. It's going to take a fair few drafts to fix our list, hope Dalrymple and J.McCartney are up to it.

We don't have a heap of 'sheep dogs' on the list with Tutt & Sherman being the only like players... Tutt has been injured all year and Sherman is out of favour... If only Eagleton was still around.

Agree that the recruiters/ list manager have the job in front of them.