Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #76
    Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

    Originally posted by Desipura
    I believe there is, MJP may be able to confirm/deny.
    Your kidding aren't you? At 17yo you can test someone with actual data to see if they be able to lead adults in the future.
    It's all guess work for something you can't really measure.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15548

      #77
      Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

      Originally posted by bornadog
      How do you know what he is saying?
      I can read lips.

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15484

        #78
        Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

        Originally posted by Mantis
        I can read lips.
        But can you read hand singles?
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67706

          #79
          Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

          Originally posted by Mantis
          I can read lips.
          forgot you were superman
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #80
            Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

            Anchors:if Howard was neither unwell or injured then send him back to Glenelg -fast
            Jones needs to go back to VFL and learn how to play. Roughy likewise.
            And the Selector who championed the idea of playing Roughy as the Sub should give the game away.

            The last couple of performances rate with the worst days of Rhode or perhaps the mid 60's

            We are in for a long stint at the bottom.

            Please, please give them one or two priorities beyond contested possessions!!!

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            • Desipura
              WOOF Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 4344

              #81
              Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

              Originally posted by Chops
              Your kidding aren't you? At 17yo you can test someone with actual data to see if they be able to lead adults in the future.
              It's all guess work for something you can't really measure.
              Are you saying you cannot pick a potential leader from an interview?
              Have you ever done any recruiting?

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              • Ozza
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Mar 2008
                • 6402

                #82
                Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

                Interesting comment from Higgins post game on one of the radio stations (maybe AW) on Saturday night.

                He was saying that they pride themselves on attack on the ball and contested ball - and were poor in that area - and if that fails they don't have anything to fall back on.

                He may have not chosen his words correctly - but if thats exactly what he means - then we are in serious strife.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #83
                  Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

                  Originally posted by Desipura
                  Are you saying you cannot pick a potential leader from an interview?
                  Have you ever done any recruiting?
                  And they get it right all the time.
                  Again it's all based on opinion for something you can't really measure on young kids that haven't matured yet.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45587

                    #84
                    Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Leadership is not our current problem.
                    Originally posted by Desipura
                    That is your opinion. It is one of our problems is mine.
                    The leadership group don't select the players on the playing list or the players selected on match day so from my view, there are some more pressing issues to improve on before we make any changes to the leadership group.
                    It certainly isn't a quick fix either.

                    Chucking guys into the group would be at best symbolic and there are a few things I would want to iron out before making that change.

                    To me it's the equivalent of filling the petrol tank of a car that's just been in an accident. Yes we will need to look at the quality of the leadership group but there are some more pressing issues to deal with that the leadership can't influence.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 45587

                      #85
                      Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

                      Originally posted by Desipura
                      Are you saying you cannot pick a potential leader from an interview?
                      Have you ever done any recruiting?
                      Physcometric tests can tell you certain things about the character of a person and their potential to improve but the younger guys are well coached to give text book answers.

                      When you see a young guy like Wallis his leadership potential is for all and sundry to see but for others a test might help. I personally don't hold think they are great tests but it's obviously something that a lot of clubs will do.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14750

                        #86
                        Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

                        Originally posted by Desipura
                        Are you saying you cannot pick a potential leader from an interview?
                        Have you ever done any recruiting?
                        This is something that the club could and would find out when they interview the potential draftees teachers, coaches etc.

                        Most leaders are born leaders.
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • neddie

                          #87
                          Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

                          Originally posted by EJ Smith
                          Anchors:if Howard was neither unwell or injured then send him back to Glenelg -fast
                          Jones needs to go back to VFL and learn how to play. Roughy likewise.
                          And the Selector who championed the idea of playing Roughy as the Sub should give the game away.

                          The last couple of performances rate with the worst days of Rhode or perhaps the mid 60's

                          We are in for a long stint at the bottom.

                          Please, please give them one or two priorities beyond contested possessions!!!
                          Last week Howard was in the best players ,your motto appears to be" one strike and your out"and sent home!!!

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #88
                            Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 14

                            Originally posted by neddie
                            Last week Howard was in the best players ,your motto appears to be" one strike and your out"and sent home!!!
                            It was the nature of his performance that was so damning. Every player can have a bad day. We can live with that. But you can't live with lack of effort, you can't live with a nonchalent approach which says, I don't give a damn and you can't live with a bloke that had timid written all over him.

                            Some things are not negotiable.

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