Starting to get worried about our coach

[Dry Rot]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Only ever saw him a few times live.

That game v North that Kelly played was amazing.

Swans were well behind. He basically willed the Swans home. And they won on the bell. Kelly IIRC kicked that last two or three winning goals.

Probably the most exciting finish to a game I've seen live, and crapped on that close win we had v North in the mid last decade. You Melbourne folk bag SCG crowds and their enthusiasm - that day it was a capacity crowd and the Swans crowd just went off as Kelly pulled off the impossible.

The only like performance I've seen live was Archer in Norths v Saints @ SCG and Kerr at Homebush Swans v WCE in 2007.

Both just stood up when they were needed, and both were BOG.

Sorry, but our senior/good players just don't do this most of the time NB in finals.

[The Underdog]

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You Melbourne folk bag SCG crowds and their enthusiasm

That's a fairly broad generalisation.

[Topdog]

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The thing about Hodge (and Kelly before him) is that he usually delivers in big games eg the 2008 GF.

Sorry, Griff is not in this class. How many games when we're being hammered, has Griff said enough, I'm going to turn this around?

Griff could not have performed any better than he has in finals. Consistently been our best player and usually in the top 3 on the ground.

[jeemak]

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The thing about Hodge (and Kelly before him) is that he usually delivers in big games eg the 2008 GF.

Sorry, Griff is not in this class. How many games when we're being hammered, has Griff said enough, I'm going to turn this around?

This is absolute tripe. Griffen is the rare player that actually lifts for finals. I'd back his big game level against just about anyone in the league.

[Bornadog]

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This is absolute tripe. Griffen is the rare player that actually lifts for finals. I'd back his big game level against just about anyone in the league.

I second that.

[KT31]

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This is absolute tripe. Griffen is the rare player that actually lifts for finals. I'd back his big game level against just about anyone in the league.

^^^
Agree

[G-Mo77]

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This is absolute tripe. Griffen is the rare player that actually lifts for finals. I'd back his big game level against just about anyone in the league.

Yeah, I'd somewhat agree. Anyone in the league is very debatable though. His disposal still makes me cringe at times as do his shots on goal. Escapes a lot of criticism in that regard.

[Ozza]

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I the 9 finals of the 2008-2010 era - I'm pretty sure Griffen was amongst our best players (often our clear best) in about 8 out of 9.

[whythelongface]

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Griff could not have performed any better than he has in finals. Consistently been our best player and usually in the top 3 on the ground.

Absolutely agree. To suggest that he doesn't deliver when counted is way off the mark.

Right now he doesn't appear to be at the top of his game, however this is due to the fact that he is getting heavily tagged each game as he is clearly (if not our only) our most damaging player and the opposition are clearly trying to nullify his influence on the game. He desperately needs an offsider who has his ability to turn the game so that he is isn't on his lonesome.

[Mofra]

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I the 9 finals of the 2008-2010 era - I'm pretty sure Griffen was amongst our best players (often our clear best) in about 8 out of 9.

He was possibly BOG on one leg against the Swans when we lost Cooney

[Greystache]

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This is absolute tripe. Griffen is the rare player that actually lifts for finals. I'd back his big game level against just about anyone in the league.

Agreed. If anything Griffen tends to struggle against middle of the road teams, if a player has to have a weakness I'm more than comfortable with it being that!

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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Agreed. If anything Griffen tends to struggle against middle of the road teams, if a player has to have a weakness I'm more than comfortable with it being that!

It should be stated that Griffen doesn't have the depth of midfield talent around him like a Collingwood, Geelong or Hawthorn. Can you imagine how well he would fit into these more talented sides. Our weekly expectations on Griffen and Boyd are huge made more so now with the loss of both Cooney and Cross.

[Dry Rot]

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I think you guys have misunderstood me. Griff is a very good player and yes he has performed well in finals.

But that's different to players who can make a statement and really turn a game around. Some of these had sublime skills like Hird and some just had something else like Kelly, Hodge and even Archer earlier in his career.

IMO we have lacked players like this.

Furthermore, for years we haven't the flag when one of ours get nailed. IMO, we have lacked various forms of toughness, physical and mental, this century. IIRC, teams didn't like playing us in the late nineties.

[LostDoggy]

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Think we've all had a pretty good say on this thread and maybe we're starting to go round in circles.

[Bornadog]

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You wish