Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

[Eastdog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

The aim now is to keep it under 100 points.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

so many guys walking around

This is the really disappointing thing, where is the pride? Surely they must be getting sick of this week in week out. Where is the effort?

[jazzadogs]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

What would you do then Einstein? I'm sick of these cheap pots at the coach. Do you think any changes would influence the outcome of this game? You're delusional if so. We are a poor side with a very average list which desperately lacks class and footy smarts.

These players and our senior players especially need to stand up. Not the coach. I mean Boyd, Lake, Murphy, Griffen, Gilbee... Where are you? Where is the leadership and spirit from this senior group?

+1. Whilst I'm sure there are one or two things which could have been done differently, and won us one or two extra contests, there is nothing that McCartney could have done to actually change the course of this game.

Grant down back has done a few good things, and then at other times has been terrible. A good experiment, and will no doubt be used heavily for education which I strongly support.

Not sure why people are suggesting Jones goes to Riewoldt, when they are also complaining that Lake is not doing a good enough job. We think Jones is going to do better?

the thing is, saints are awful. makes it worse

The saints are not awful. We are awful.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Thats certainly unfair and uncalled for.

No matter which players on our current list or where they played on the ground would make any difference at all.

Picking a cheap and easy scape goat is simple.

The fact is our list is crap, the kids which we had previously banked on as being half decent (Howard, Jones, Roughhead, Grant etc) are not even slightly capable. is it Maccas fault the team is full of turnips?

On a side note, how was cross when he did his shoulder, ive never seen a more committed man at our club before, he personifies the bulldog spirit and self sacrifice and getting the most out of himself, your a bloody legend crossy.

Tell me does it look like the coaches message is getting through, no, so his coaching is poor, players do what they are told, instructed, so obviously this teaching year is not going well. If this continues who would want to stay, whether they love the club or not, each and every player wants a flag, not development. So tell me who's fault is it, we haven't had a big change in players, what lost a full forward, winger ............. Just my thoughts champ.

[Missing-Dog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

The effort by some younger guys is ok.. Well at least they are trying.
Other young players though are pretty poor

[Eastdog]

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This is the really disappointing thing, where is the pride? Surely they must be getting sick of this week in week out. Where is the effort?

Agree. Where is the Bulldog spirit. Right now it's non-existent.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

I think the majority of poor disposal and poor decision making comes after the players have dropped their heads because they cant work out our game style and/or realize we can't win with it.

[The Pie Man]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

That 3rd quarter wasn't even remotely AFL standard.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Roughead not a backmans backside.

[Missing-Dog]

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+1. Whilst I'm sure there are one or two things which could have been done differently, and won us one or two extra contests, there is nothing that McCartney could have done to actually change the course of this game.

Grant down back has done a few good things, and then at other times has been terrible. A good experiment, and will no doubt be used heavily for education which I strongly support.

Not sure why people are suggesting Jones goes to Riewoldt, when they are also complaining that Lake is not doing a good enough job. We think Jones is going to do better?



The saints are not awful. We are awful.

Its not that he will do better than lake!
Its that he may learn to work hard!! and learn from Reiwoldt on how a forward should lead

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

All of that has been tried and done before on multiple occasions and failed repeatedly. Lucky you are not our coach otherwise we would be back in 2008.

Sorry you have no better answers, what would you do? Or would you just sit there like the coach and say wow this is great education leaving all these players in the positions they started the game with.

[jazzadogs]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Let's see, Williams chub on r'walt, murph on Hayes, Pickens on milne, Boyd on Goddard for starters.

Boyd is already on Goddard, Murphy is beating Milne, Williams is just about the only option up forward who has actually looked remotely promising.

Wouldn't have been upset to see Hargrave in the side ahead of Gilbee, to play on Milne.

I thought it was a good move at the start of the game to have Griffen starting forward, to drag C Jones out of his comfort zone. He's not an idiot, I don't understand why he is so consistently portrayed as one.

[LostDoggy]

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Seriously Savage, whilst I have been bemused at times this year with our coaching staff, with respect to tactics, team selections, these sort of performances say more about the players. They have got to take ownership for the poor disposals, poor marking and an otherwise lack of application and pride in their performance week in week out.
At some stage given the number of beltings we have received over the past several weeks, these guys as a group have to show something, and they are not.
Blame the coach all you want, but these guys are pathetic at the moment and they have to own that.

Again I say, they do what the football department coaches tell them to do, the coaching department is very poor, the players are not listening, more then likely they ain't getting the message. If I'm wrong we'll so be it, but my days in footy was you did what the coach told you to do, don't think things have changed.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

1 goal 2 since quarter time. just laughable.

[jazzadogs]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Its not that he will do better than lake!
Its that he may learn to work hard!! and learn from Reiwoldt on how a forward should lead

I see what you're saying, but personally I can't see that being the best way to teach him.