Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

[Twodogs]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Who are you referring to here?

Vezpremi, Higgins and Giansiracusa to start with. The usual suspects with the usual faults in their game that they have been unable or unwilling to address for years now. Tutt, Howard, Grant, Roughead, Jones and a few other younger players would be on thin ice too. I'd add Markovic and Gilbee to the list but they must be playing their last season of AFL football anyway.

[Maddog37]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

The suits are unhappy with the state of the union, and realize the coaching panel need some help.

That was my read on it too.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

They're making a statement that they are sticking with the coach.

On the contrary... They're unhappy, and up there trying to figure out just what the coach is trying to achieve.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Hall was a rap for Vez and had a bit to do getting him to the dogs, what did he see that he ain't delivering.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

They're making a statement that they are sticking with the coach.

Maybe they are there to stab him in the back?

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Vezpremi, Higgins and Giansiracusa to start with. The usual suspects with the usual faults in their game that they have been unable or unwilling to address for years now. Tutt, Howard, Grant, Roughead, Jones and a few other younger players would be on thin ice too. I'd add Markovic and Gilbee to the list but they must be playing their last season of AFL football anyway.

Higgins was just coming good! This whole team has dropped its chin bar a few players who seem to soldier on regardless. We are in dire straits and such poor defensive marking; evidence f a team that threw in the towel.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Just go back from the game. Not only are we losing, we are playing a brand of football that is unwatchable.

Obviously some massive concerns in every facet of the game today. Don't know where to begin. Very, very hard to be a Bulldogs supporter today .....

[Redemption97]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

If the coach made some moves and showed some passion maybe wouldn't be so critical of him.

These are bewildering?

* Williams isnot a CHF,
* Roughead isnot a CHB.
* Gilbee was cooked two years ago,
* Shaggy is in the poo because the coach doesn't like him.
* Sherman isnot an in and under player, yet the coach drops him because he wasn't getting the contested ball.
* Vez clearly shouldn't be in the side.
* Playing three rucks some week why?
* players getting smashed, but not moved
* Jones - our forward coach is teaching him what?

Four games to go, lets give some more young players a go. We are being beaten by 60 plus points so 100 points is no different.

Williams has shown more and made more of a contest than any of our other tall forwards this season.

Roughead is still developing and not a lot of things at the moment. I thought his hands were ok today.

Shaggy is done and him not being in the side is giving Pearce and Howard game time.

Sherman was dropped for poor play both inside and outside...

I agree with Vesz call... that may have been close to a last chance for him?

Moved where? Who is the better player to fill the gap? We don't have them!

Why not play the three rucks? They all need the development and I'm not sure who the other guns on our list are who'll be getting a game over them and making a 70+ point difference in these games?

Jones has been terrible this year in the seniors. He did the job at Willy the week before and got picked. I don't have a problem with that message to our player group... I do have a problem with this rut Jones is in at senior level though

It helps having something to blame. I'm hurting as much as the rest of you but a spade is a spade. We need to focus our vision on our list and give the coach a chance to shape it and build the side he's been spruiking about. We need a 'refresh' to get the talent in and polish what's worth holding on to. I'm going to stick by the club and keep the faith that in a year or two were going to have a side to be excited about again.

[jeemak]

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Vezpremi, Higgins and Giansiracusa to start with. The usual suspects with the usual faults in their game that they have been unable or unwilling to address for years now. Tutt, Howard, Grant, Roughead, Jones and a few other younger players would be on thin ice too. I'd add Markovic and Gilbee to the list but they must be playing their last season of AFL football anyway.

I have very little understanding of why you would want to get rid of Higgins, the only player on our list that has recently looked capable of kicking some goals with exception to Tory Dickson.

I'm not sure what you expect from Tutt and Howard at this point of their careers, and I personally can't see us flicking Roughead considering he's been given a three year deal not five days ago.

Grant played very positively last week, though for some reason he was played behind the ball this week which was a little unfortunate. Jones is completely out of sorts, though putting him on thin ice is a bit over the top.

[GVGjr]

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Just go back from the game. Not only are we losing, we are playing a brand of football that is unwatchable.

Obviously some massive concerns in every facet of the game today. Don't know where to begin. Very, very hard to be a Bulldogs supporter today .....

I hear you. We are very bad at the moment and we are getting a belting most week.

[F'scary]

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On the contrary... They're unhappy, and up there trying to figure out just what the coach is trying to achieve.

Nah, they're there to show support, to take collective responsibility. After all, they chose him.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

We are terrible to Watch it is really going to be a tough last 5 weeks of the Season.
Our Crowds are only going to get worse
We Must make a play for Gumbleton or Aaron Edwards

[ReLoad]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

For those who are ambivalent on Howard today, watch the passage of play for 20 seconds before Montagna kicks that great goal from the boundary line at the Footscray end.

I'd say its a monty for Danny Frawley's "Coach killer"

[soupman]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Actually I'm quite confused as to why Johanissen didn't play today? What was the need and point of promoting him early in the week if he wasn't going to play? Unless he was ill late in the week?

Isn't there a deadline for promoting rookies by so you couldn't just promote all your rookies in the second last round for "season ending" injuries. I think it used to be round 15

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

It helps having something to blame.

No it doesn't help at all.

Questions are being asked about the game plan and coaching moves and there are no answers.
As I have said in another thread, there is more to coaching than just developing players.

We need a 'refresh' to get the talent in and polish what's worth holding on to. I'm going to stick by the club and keep the faith that in a year or two were going to have a side to be excited about again.

We need a cull not a refresh.

I will always stick with the club and have done so for 50 plus years. The team is basically unwatchable at the moment.