Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

[KT31]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Maybe they are there to stab him in the back?

You as a Dog's supporter NO this is not the way Chris Grant does things.

[Max469]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

With a young side we needed a Coach who would teach not learn.

And to able to teach you need to learn.

He still has to learn to read the players. Obviously this is not happening because he would be moving players when they are being comprehensively beaten.

I have heard he is an exceptional teacher but we are paying him to coach and our team is the worst I seen for many years.

As I said I am willing to see where he is taking us, but the direction must be forwards and not backwards as it is now.

We have played 18 rounds I think it was reasonable to expect some sort of improvement in our younger players from his teachings in this time.

He might find he will be under a bit of pressure from now until the end of the season and next year the pressure may become too much for him, as it any coach in his position.

[KT31]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

With a young side we needed a Coach who would teach not learn.

And to able to teach you need to learn.

He still has to learn to read the players. Obviously this is not happening because he would be moving players when they are being comprehensively beaten.

I have heard he is an exceptional teacher but we are paying him to coach and our team is the worst I seen for many years.

As I said I am willing to see where he is taking us, but the direction must be forwards and not backwards as it is now.

We have played 18 rounds I think it was reasonable to expect some sort of improvement in our younger players from his teachings in this time.

He might find he will be under a bit of pressure from now until the end of the season and next year the pressure may become too much for him, as it any coach in his position.

A student learns, a teacher teaches.
Yes coaching is a continuous learning curve, but you must have something to teach in the beginning.
Let's put the philosophical crap away for a minute, all I have learnt in the last few weeks is we seem to have no game plan and don't come out after half time.

[Mantis]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Absolutely damning stat tweeted by Stevo - we have kicked 18 second half goals in the last 6 matches. GWS, who have been getting smashed on average by 20 goals in that time, have kicked 19. As a collective group, we curl up our toes after half time in the most embarrassingly abysmal way.

This stat says a fair bit about our fitness.

We just lack the running power to keep going after 1/2 time... I know the coach wants us to get bigger & stronger, but we also need to be able to run out games.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

This stat says a fair bit about our fitness.

We just lack the running power to keep going after 1/2 time... I know the coach wants us to get bigger & stronger, but we also need to be able to run out games.

Interesting. He and Bomber took that ethos to Essendon and have a look at how well they're going fitness wise. Sometimes you need to mould the game plan to the players you have and not go for an off the shelf approach that may not fit your list. Sacrificing entertaining footy in the short term for the ultimate goal is a big risk to take. If playing attractive footy keeps the members interested then maybe the planets can align and we can snatch one with the right balance (attack/defence). Playing this way just drives people away and gives them nothing. I'd rather get the offense right, keep the members around and interested (maybe sign up some more) then work on the defense. Maybe we're doing it backwards.

[Mantis]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Interesting. He and Bomber took that ethos to Essendon and have a look at how well they're going fitness wise. Sometimes you need to mould the game plan to the players you have and not go for an off the shelf approach that may not fit your list. Sacrificing entertaining footy in the short term for the ultimate goal is a big risk to take. If playing attractive footy keeps the members interested then maybe the planets can align and we can snatch one with the right balance (attack/defence). Playing this way just drives people away and gives them nothing. I'd rather get the offense right, keep the members around and interested (maybe sign up some more) then work on the defense. Maybe we're doing it backwards.

Eade went down this path and almost got us to the big dance. It will be interesting to see if Macca's strategy works, but in the meantime it's shit boring to watch.

Interesting on the first point too.... Everyone was saying how big & strong Essendon looked early on, but they look to have run out of gas and are getting a heap of soft tissue injuries to boot.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

This stat says a fair bit about our fitness.

We just lack the running power to keep going after 1/2 time... I know the coach wants us to get bigger & stronger, but we also need to be able to run out games.

Says a lot about the number of preseasons we've had collectively.

[Hot_Doggies]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Interesting. He and Bomber took that ethos to Essendon and have a look at how well they're going fitness wise. Sometimes you need to mould the game plan to the players you have and not go for an off the shelf approach that may not fit your list. Sacrificing entertaining footy in the short term for the ultimate goal is a big risk to take. If playing attractive footy keeps the members interested then maybe the planets can align and we can snatch one with the right balance (attack/defence). Playing this way just drives people away and gives them nothing. I'd rather get the offense right, keep the members around and interested (maybe sign up some more) then work on the defense. Maybe we're doing it backwards.

The fickle fans will return in a few years when we improve. Frightening how fast fans(many on here also) lose sight of the big picture. This is the first year of a 3-5yr rebuild, you can expect many more floggings, youngsters to stagnate, old guys to fall away fast etc.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

You as a Dog's supporter NO this is not the way Chris Grant does things.

thinking more about the other guy

[Desipura]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

thinking more about the other guy

So why would Grant be there?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

So why would Grant be there?

I dont really care. Means little to me. You think your clever, you work it out.

[Desipura]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

I dont really care. Means little to me. You think your clever, you work it out.

I have worked it out, you made a comment without any thought about Grant and Fantasia being there to backstab the coach, and then you backtracked when someone question you, as Grant, a club great would not do such a thing.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

I have worked it out, you made a comment without any thought about Grant and Fantasia being there to backstabbing the coach, and then you backtracked when someone question you, as Grant, a club great would not do such a thing.

I was serious too.

[Desipura]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

I was serious too.

Serious that both were there to backstab the coach?
If that's the case you have changed your mind once again as previously you made the comment you were referring to Fantasia. Which one is it?
Was Grant there to backstab the coach or not in your opinion?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2012 - R18 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

Serious that both were there to backstab the coach?
If that's the case you have changed your mind once again as previously you made the comment you were referring to Fantasia. Which one is it?
Was Grant there to backstab the coach or not in your opinion?

Are you sure you're ok?
You going analyze every word of mine and try to discover a secret meaning?
You want me to point out a throw away comment every time just for you?