What is this string of losses doing to our club?

[Maddog37]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

I have my name down for golf on Saturday and will need to cancel to go to the game.

I want to support the Dogs as I have a reserved seat but I do not want to put my wife and kids through the pain.

Am I being selfish? Last time we went together was the Bears game and I hated evey minute of it.

[Grantysghost]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

Kids change their teams all the time so it's no biggie. My older brother changed from a successful Carlton team to a wooden spooner team in St. Kilda back in the 80's and has never looked back. I also converted a Geelong supporter to a Dog supporter a few years ago just because I took him to the game and got his photo taken with our mascot.

I guess so, but historically it appears we lose more than we gain.

[KT31]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

i have my name down for golf on saturday and will need to cancel to go to the game.

I want to support the dogs as i have a reserved seat but i do not want to put my wife and kids through the pain.

Am i being selfish? Last time we went together was the bears game and i hated evey minute of it.

1996 ?

[Cyberdoggie]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

It hurts there is no doubt about it, and it will get worse next year as i'm sure there will be a huge drop off in memberships etc.

There is always up and down periods in football it's usually a fact of life, especially when you throw everything at winning a flag and the planning for the future doesn't end up paying off.

The problem is that we are playing so badly at the moment, and it is so un-inspiring to watch. I can't recall a period where we have kicked so few goals, particularly in second halves.

It's going to be a very dark period for the club until they can get things moving forward again. I just hope the club is prepared financially for it and that they are not making decisions that are going to put the club's future in doubt (ie vfl alignments etc).

[Ghost Dog]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

Minson or Redpath (?) have to go forward, just so we have a tall target. Have to find a way to get more goals.

[G-Mo77]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

Minson or Redpath (?) have to go forward, just so we have a tall target. Have to find a way to get more goals.

Redpath will be lucky to be on the list next season. Just because he's a big unit doesn't mean he's the answer besides that he's out for the rest of the year. The way the ball is delivered the best forwards would struggle to kick goals in this team.

I'd still like to try a guy like Panos before the year is over though.

Not a biggie when it's one or two kids and you are attracting others.
It is a biggie when you are losing heaps of kids and not attracting any.

Happens at every club when the team drops off. Unfortunately we feel it more than most others because of our smaller following. We're planning on having a kid soon so my wife and I need to get the timing spot on to make sure he/she is a Bulldog.

[LostDoggy]

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Redpath will be lucky to be on the list next season. Just because he's a big unit doesn't mean he's the answer besides that he's out for the rest of the year. The way the ball is delivered the best forwards would struggle to kick goals in this team.

I'd still like to try a guy like Panos before the year is over though.



Happens at every club when the team drops off. Unfortunately we feel it more than most others because of our smaller following. We're planning on having a kid soon so my wife and I need to get the timing spot on to make sure he/she is a Bulldog.

There you go. G-Mo77 — singlehandedly saving our future membership base! Go lad!

[Remi Moses]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

Kids change their teams all the time so it's no biggie. My older brother changed from a successful Carlton team to a wooden spooner team in St. Kilda back in the 80's and has never looked back. I also converted a Geelong supporter to a Dog supporter a few years ago just because I took him to the game and got his photo taken with our mascot.

Exactly kids chop and change . Just out of interest North only got 20 thou to their game on Saturday.Hawthorn were battling in the mid naughties and nearly merged after ummmm, 5 years without a flag.I'd be mortified if the club took a short term approach to things like recruiting . We'd be back to where we are in a heartbeat!

[Mantis]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

Exactly kids chop and change . Just out of interest North only got 20 thou to their game on Saturday.Hawthorn were battling in the mid naughties and nearly merged after ummmm, 5 years without a flag. I'd be mortified if the club took a short term approach to things like recruiting .We'd be back to where we are in a heartbeat!

You only have to look at Richmond as evidence that it can happen. They thought Terry Wallet was the answer to their prayers when he came along with his 5 year plan... But 5 years later they were still a bottom 6 side.

Lucky for them they have a massive supporter base that has stuck fat... I'm not so sure that with a small supporter base, a big debt and in testing economic times we can afford such a long slide.

We have to get this 'refresh' right... but my faith in the parties pulling the strings isn't all that strong.

[Remi Moses]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

You only have to look at Richmond as evidence that it can happen. They thought Terry Wallet was the answer to their prayers when he came along with his 5 year plan... But 5 years later they were still a bottom 6 side.

Lucky for them they have a massive supporter base that has stuck fat... I'm not so sure that with a small supporter base, a big debt and in testing economic times we can afford such a long slide.

We have to get this 'refresh' right... but my faith in the parties pulling the strings isn't all that strong.

Fair point, although the Tigers have a big debt as well.
We've just got to accept in sporting terms we're a small club so when we struggle there's an effect. Use the draft sell the future with the kids and not rehashed fringe footballers.

[LostDoggy]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

You only have to look at Richmond as evidence that it can happen. They thought Terry Wallet was the answer to their prayers when he came along with his 5 year plan... But 5 years later they were still a bottom 6 side.

Lucky for them they have a massive supporter base that has stuck fat... I'm not so sure that with a small supporter base, a big debt and in testing economic times we can afford such a long slide.

We have to get this 'refresh' right... but my faith in the parties pulling the strings isn't all that strong.

I see your point in regards to our finances, etc. but we haven't won a flag since 1954 and we're still here. Yeah, it's tough, but I don't see us folding, we've been there, done that, got the shirt and now smile at the memory. We'll pull through this slump and come out stronger on the other side. Maybe not Collingwood strong. But stronger.

[Eastdog]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

I see your point in regards to our finances, etc. but we haven't won a flag since 1954 and we're still here. Yeah, it's tough, but I don't see us folding, we've been there, done that, got the shirt and now smile at the memory. We'll pull through this slump and come out stronger on the other side. Maybe not Collingwood strong. But stronger.

This is just a bad period for our club - every club has been there. I'm sure we will get to the point of being in the premiership race again and hopefully win next time round. We need good recruiters at the club who know what players to draft and more importantly develop them. This process will take time.

[westdog54]

Re: What is this string of losses doing to our club?

You only have to look at Richmond as evidence that it can happen. They thought Terry Wallet was the answer to their prayers when he came along with his 5 year plan... But 5 years later they were still a bottom 6 side.

Lucky for them they have a massive supporter base that has stuck fat... I'm not so sure that with a small supporter base, a big debt and in testing economic times we can afford such a long slide.

We have to get this 'refresh' right... but my faith in the parties pulling the strings isn't all that strong.

Part of Richmond's problem was that their footy department was so poorly resourced that the 5 year plan didn't have a hope in hell of succeeding. With Greg Miller doing the football manager's job and recruiting, the poor facilities they had, was never going to happen.

[LostDoggy]

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I wrote about the fact that our club is in dire need of a shake, the board, the footy department and yes the coach are not up to it, on top of this we have several players that are just turning up for the money.

Names?

I dont see the bulldog spirit of ol, Teddy and Charlie would be rolling in the grave to see this sort of stuff.

At Charlie's funeral, one of the main things driven home to us about Charlie was that he never potted a player. He stuck fat through thick and thin for 70 years. If he is indeed turning in the grave, it's at the attitude of some of our fans.

Will a change of presidency change the club culture, prob not,…

Then why do it?

…will a shake up of the footy department do anything in the short term, flip a coin.

So why would we risk the upheaval at a time of rebuilding?

Like it or not we are dead in the water for at least five years, I cant see it being any earlier then that. So, get use to low membership, low attendance and lack of money folks it is 1995/6 all over again.

I had so many responses to what you wrote, I just had to split your post up. Go watch Year Of The Dogs. We are nowhere near where we were in 1996.

Part of Richmond's problem was that their footy department was so poorly resourced that the 5 year plan didn't have a hope in hell of succeeding. With Greg Miller doing the football manager's job and recruiting, the poor facilities they had, was never going to happen.

Absolutely right. Whether his plan was the right one or not, a key part of any plan's success is in it's execution.

[LostDoggy]

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Kids change their teams all the time so it's no biggie. My older brother changed from a successful Carlton team to a wooden spooner team in St. Kilda back in the 80's and has never looked back. I also converted a Geelong supporter to a Dog supporter a few years ago just because I took him to the game and got his photo taken with our mascot.

You need to be firm, this is what I said to my two boys aged 8 & 5.
Boys in life you can change many things, car, house, hell you can even change your wife or girlfriend.

But one thing you can never change is your footy team! then my 5 year old started to cry