Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

Yes.

Every player promoted off the rookie list gets 2 years, it's standard. If there was so little faith in either them that you'd only give then 1 year then the coaching staff is being negligent in promoting them at all.

DJ got 2 years, he's out of contract at the end of the season. How many times does the 3 years story need to be corrected for it to stop being Fantasia bashing material?

Name some good things James has done for us then? Let's be positive!

Does Fantasia have more power than the senior coach? It seems that way.

[chef]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

Name some good things James has done for us then? Let's be positive!

He allowed Eade to focus on just coaching when he arrived in 2007, we then made 3 prelims in a row.

[azabob]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

Name some good things James has done for us then? Let's be positive!

The re-signing of Lake, Griffen, Higgins.

[ledge]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

Resigning of DAhlhaus

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

He allowed Eade to focus on just coaching when he arrived in 2007, we then made 3 prelims in a row.

Yet, he wasn't at Rocket's last press conference. Why not? And it was no secret the two did not get along.

[chef]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

Yet, he wasn't at Rocket's last press conference. Why not? And it was no secret the two did not get along.

Why did he have to be there?

[Bornadog]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

I hate threads like this going over old ground, blaming recruiters, coaches, football managers. I would rather discuss the things we need to do to move forward.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

Why did he have to be there?

Because he was the person Rodney reported to.
I'm happy to be told I have it wrong. I'd definitely like to hear positive things about how we list, re-list and de-list players.
Positive things about club people who's roles are a bit faceless. Perhaps the issue is we only see James when there is some kind of crisis. Aker, Minno, Libba etc.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

Yes.

Every player promoted off the rookie list gets 2 years, it's standard. If there was so little faith in either them that you'd only give then 1 year then the coaching staff is being negligent in promoting them at all.

DJ got 2 years, he's out of contract at the end of the season. How many times does the 3 years story need to be corrected for it to stop being Fantasia bashing material?

Fair enough on the rookies. We must be keeping Panos then.
And yes DJ got 2 but what about the price paid for him?
There plenty of other Fantasia material.
Eg A 3 year contract to Williams.
The drawn out Lake contract dispute.
The Everitt/Vezpremi trade then missing swans pick promised.
Failure to act early enough to keep Harbrow or Ward.
Etc
You have explanation for those?

[LongWait]

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I'll bet my bottom dollar that no-one on this board knows who played which roles, and how much relative weight the club officials bought to bear in any of the decisions discussed in this thread. The character assassination that goes on with scant evidence is a bloody joke. We can't even agree the basic facts like the duration of contracts. I guess I have to stop taking the interweb too seriously.

[GVGjr]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

Fair enough on the rookies. We must be keeping Panos then.
And yes DJ got 2 but what about the price paid for him?
There plenty of other Fantasia material.
Eg A 3 year contract to Williams.
The drawn out Lake contract dispute.
The Everitt/Vezpremi trade then missing swans pick promised.
Failure to act early enough to keep Harbrow or Ward.
Etc
You have explanation for those?

Well said Chops agree totally.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

I'll bet my bottom dollar that no-one on this board knows who played which roles, and how much relative weight the club officials bought to bear in any of the decisions discussed in this thread. The character assassination that goes on with scant evidence is a bloody joke. We can't even agree the basic facts like the duration of contracts. I guess I have to stop taking the interweb too seriously.

Only one character was assassinated. The rest are still there.

[Twodogs]

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It was indicative of the blame it all on Fantasia attitude that seems to permeate which is rather tiresome. Our terrible trading decisions mostly revolve around a period before Fantasia came to the club, and back in 2007 when Eade was coach and football manager the football department was described as dysfunctional.

Fantasia may be an average performer but we have been average in football operations a lot longer than he's been at the club.

I wonder why when the development of so many of our young players has been slow or non-existent Chris Maple doesn't receive a battering, or is it that people don't know who he is?

I'm no fan of Fantasia (he's a time sever as far as I am concerned) but your point about player development is very well made. It's all very well to say we should have recruited player x but who's to say that even if we did then he would have became the same player at our club than he would have at another club. The same question could be asked in reverse. If we hadnt drafted player x and he had gone to a different club would he have benefited from that and his career blossomed?

I look at players like Luke Hodge and Joel Selwood and wish they were bulldogs. They are leaders of men and we have no-one comporable on our list. Not only are they they the types of guys who pick teams and games up and bend them the way they want them to turn out, they will let a teammate know that an effort wasnt acceptable, disposals that miss their target arent good enough. They put themselves on the spot for their team and the club they play for are all the better for it.

[GVGjr]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

Only one character was assassinated. The rest are still there.

This is the most ridiculous of comments and another gross over exaggeration from you.
Don't bother contributing to discussions if this is what you are offering.

[jeemak]

Re: Our abysmal draft record; The Roar

Enjoyed reading your posts Guido.