Should we go after a ready made forward

[LostDoggy]

Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

The harder you work the more likely you are to be injured. In a world run by OHS is it acceptable (regardless if it is a sport or not) to expect people (players) to "crack in" at all time and lead to possible injury. The club and AFL have an obligation to provide the safest possible workplace it can, the field is their workplace.

So bearing that in mind you increase the chance of injury by expecting players to "crack in" (and liability) would that be negligent, now I am no expert when it comes to civil litigation but only takes one injured player to say to Mr Solicitor "but the coach told me I had to crack in, I did that and I broke my leg". Far fetched maybe, can happen.

So hence back to the original question to provide a safe workplace you need to have the right tools, this will sound odd, but in this case the right tools (sic') are the right players who can fill a position without the need to require a player to "crack in" hell for leather and increase chance of injury.

PS; Morris was just and example of an easy injury at "cracking in".

Onya - you have just lodged the most humorous post in the history of this blog.

A cracking post

[Eastdog]

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Let's see what Panos shows on Sunday against the Lions as he has been named.

[ReLoad]

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There is no point in going for a KPF in the trade week, we are at least 2-3 years away from having a seriosu flag tilt, why not use that time to get our own style and players up and about.

Now is the perfect time to breed our own, let some of our expensive overpaid players go/retire and start front ending some contracts. Then when we have a team that is looking like going somwhere we will have the room and the free agency ability to go get one if needed.

Solvng some short term need to finish mid table is going to help nothing.

The only trade which I would consider some value is swapping Lake for Roughhead of Hawthorn. There is a heck of a lot of mutual upside to a deal like that.

[always right]

Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

There is no point in going for a KPF in the trade week, we are at least 2-3 years away from having a seriosu flag tilt, why not use that time to get our own style and players up and about.

Now is the perfect time to breed our own, let some of our expensive overpaid players go/retire and start front ending some contracts. Then when we have a team that is looking like going somwhere we will have the room and the free agency ability to go get one if needed.

Solvng some short term need to finish mid table is going to help nothing.

The only trade which I would consider some value is swapping Lake for Roughhead of Hawthorn. There is a heck of a lot of mutual upside to a deal like that.

Sounds like a dream to me.

[BulldogBelle]

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Onya - you have just lodged the most humorous post in the history of this blog.

A cracking post

There's a bit of truth to the post though. Much like Eade and our ''peaking too early" problem, how are we ever going to fare well in finals when after the home and away season finishes, most of our quality outside players are the epitome of a bag of goo.

[LostDoggy]

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Onya - you have just lodged the most humorous post in the history of this blog.

A cracking post

Glad I could make you laugh

[jeemak]

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There's a bit of truth to the post though. Much like Eade and our ''peaking too early" problem, how are we ever going to fare well in finals when after the home and away season finishes, most of our quality outside players are the epitome of a bag of goo.

I can't think of many premiership sides that weren't extremely hard, and full of players willing to take their turn at putting their bodies on the line when required.

McCartney wouldn't be expecting more than this.

[Eastdog]

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It's a balancing act I think. On the one hand you want the players going in hard and putting their bodies on the line for the match but at the same time you want to protect the players from injuries as well. It is somewhere in the middle.

[LostDoggy]

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It's a balancing act I think. On the one hand you want the players going in hard and putting their bodies on the line for the match but at the same time you want to protect the players from injuries as well. It is somewhere in the middle.

agreed, thanks for the balanced answer.

[Eastdog]

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To add on to my post you don't want a situation when finals come around and the team is battered and injuried and will most likely struggle eg: us in the 2010 finals. If you find a balance in the middle somewhere that's is good because injuries I believe are going to occur no matter what. You also need to be on form at the right time of the season and not 'peak' to early like we did in 2010.

[Dry Rot]

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Chasing a key forward needs to be a top priority.

Agreed. We don't have any now, so we should aim for some in the next two drafts. If a big bodied established KPP of average quality is available, he could be useful to help the new draftees.

[Ghost Dog]

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Dawes is out of favor at Collingwood....
What do some of the senior posters in here think of him?

[1eyedog]

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Certainly not a senior poster but I like Dawes when he is is in form, he looks good but 2 goals in 7 or 8 games speaks volumes to me. His best and worst are as far away as the poles. I'm not sure if cloke is good or bad for him, he's certainly not seeing much of it and I'm wondering if he is struggling with the tweak in game plan this year. He doesn't seem to know where he fits in any more. If that young fella comes in this week and kicks 3 or 4 Dawes could be in trouble.

It is impossible to shield players from injury, there are way too many variables on the field that lead to them. You can only make your players as strong and as fit as you can with time in the gym and preseasons under their belt. As for sports science, well I'm pretty naive with that...

[azabob]

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Dawes is out of favor at Collingwood....
What do some of the senior posters in here think of him?

What do you mean by senior? Senior as in old, Senior as they have been a member of this forum since day dot, senior as in the amount of times they have posted?

Dawes is out of favour because he isn't kicking goals. To me Dawes is your perfect number two forward if the team is going well and the number one forward is performing well.

I don't think we should chase Dawes at all.

[stefoid]

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What about having a crack at the other Talia? Not a forward, but a good up and coming defender and we have the family connection. When his current contract expires.