Should we go after a ready made forward

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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15211

    #46
    Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

    Originally posted by Chops
    Firstly why would anyone of note want to come to us?
    Bottom 4, low profile, slow ball movement; it's not a good career move.
    McCartney doesn't want to trade anyway.
    Unless you ask you never know. Mitch Clark ended up going to Melbourne who are at the same stage as us.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14870

      #47
      Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

      Originally posted by azabob
      Unless you ask you never know. Mitch Clark ended up going to Melbourne who are at the same stage as us.
      $$$$$
      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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      • EasternWest
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2009
        • 9994

        #48
        Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Schultz is a good forward and I get why he is the sort of player you think we should target.
        I never got the Schulz ridicule. He is/was a bit of a knucklehead, but a decent player at the same time. I would have taken him then, and I'd still take him now.

        Though I dare say he'd not come at bottom dollar anymore.
        "It's over. It's all over."

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21588

          #49
          Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

          Originally posted by EasternWest
          I never got the Schulz ridicule. He is/was a bit of a knucklehead, but a decent player at the same time. I would have taken him then, and I'd still take him now.

          Though I dare say he'd not come at bottom dollar anymore.
          He was playing in a rubbish side and not performing well because of his sides inability to use the ball just as much as his attitude. If we could have gotten him at the same time we had Hall coming to us we'd have had an extremely dangerous forward line. It might have been too late, but I suppose we'll never know.

          He does provide a good example of a player that we should have tried to take when his currency was low. And his is the type of player we should be looking for right now.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9873

            #50
            Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

            Originally posted by Mofra
            $$$$$
            And it's not like we don't have the same money as them. We should have some serious wiggle room under the salary cap either next year or 2014.

            If we do really want a player we can afford them.

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            • Sedat
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2007
              • 11144

              #51
              Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

              Originally posted by EasternWest
              I never got the Schulz ridicule. He is/was a bit of a knucklehead, but a decent player at the same time. I would have taken him then, and I'd still take him now.
              Welcome aboard the Schulz bandwagon - seats are filling fast
              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66175

                #52
                Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

                I don't believe there is anyone out there that we can trade for.

                In any case, the way we deliver the ball into the forward line, its a joke and any decent forward would still struggle.
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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #53
                  Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  Edwards is a big body but not tall, plus Edwards is a bit of a trouble maker and likes the drink.
                  Edwards beats up average opponents.
                  Guess it says alot about him that he hasn't played
                  Schultz type is what we need, but unfortunately Jay is 27.

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21588

                    #54
                    Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    I don't believe there is anyone out there that we can trade for.

                    In any case, the way we deliver the ball into the forward line, its a joke and any decent forward would still struggle.
                    You've nailed it mate, with your last comment.

                    Barry Hall did the best job of masking our most clear deficiency over the 2010 and 2011 seasons, which was our declining ability to move the ball forward with any system or structure.

                    We need to fix our forward ball movement before we even think about how our forward structure needs improving.

                    Trading for a gun forward will cost draft picks that need to be used on excellent ball winners and users.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • Remi Moses
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 14785

                      #55
                      Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      I don't believe there is anyone out there that we can trade for.

                      In any case, the way we deliver the ball into the forward line, its a joke and any decent forward would still struggle.
                      Agree, The crab like ball movement isn't conjusive for any forward.
                      Looking at the phantom drafts wonder who'd fit that role?

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                      • Remi Moses
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14785

                        #56
                        Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        You've nailed it mate, with your last comment.

                        Barry Hall did the best job of masking our most clear deficiency over the 2010 and 2011 seasons, which was our declining ability to move the ball forward with any system or structure.

                        We need to fix our forward ball movement before we even think about how our forward structure needs improving.

                        Trading for a gun forward will cost draft picks that need to be used on excellent ball winners and users.
                        We have a winner.

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                        • Greystache
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9775

                          #57
                          Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          You've nailed it mate, with your last comment.

                          Barry Hall did the best job of masking our most clear deficiency over the 2010 and 2011 seasons, which was our declining ability to move the ball forward with any system or structure.

                          We need to fix our forward ball movement before we even think about how our forward structure needs improving.

                          Trading for a gun forward will cost draft picks that need to be used on excellent ball winners and users.
                          I think there's a bit of chicken and egg with our ball movement.

                          We go short and sideways because we've got no forwards leading up and providing an option to kick to, and the forwards aren't leading because we keep going short and sideways. When Williams was playing forward and busting a gut to provide an option (which generally only lasted a half) our ball movement looked better.
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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #58
                            Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

                            If we dont fix how we are delivering the ball into the forward half, then it doesnt matter who we have up forward - the wont be able to kick any goals.

                            I felt sorry for the likes of Jones, Roughead, Cordy this season - the delivery to them was shocking and gave them no chance.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #59
                              Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

                              Originally posted by teddy54
                              I felt sorry for the likes of Jones, Roughead, Cordy this season - the delivery to them was shocking and gave them no chance.
                              Cordy, he has hands made of grease......

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                              • Maddog37
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3132

                                #60
                                Re: Should we go after a ready made forward

                                Another top post Savage. Go and watch a replay of the North game and have another stab. He may not be a gun and may never be but what jollies do you get from pot shots on the net at a kid that is doing his best in a shit side?

                                Your constant slagging of is pretty tiresome.

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