Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

You call it equalizastion, everyone else calls it a hand out...lets face it if we had 40k members we would get very very little...ala C'wood.

Like it or not we are getting assistance from AFL (special assistance) to stay alive, we cant stand on our own two feet at this time....30k members will not do it and you cant live from year to year wishing that the TV right deals get higher.

Most teams are getting a "handout" now.
Probably the only sport in the world where you get more backsides on seats and lose money, yet you can get less at a game and make more!

[Topdog]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

Sack everyone. Whinge, moan and point the finger. Someone's head must role. We need someone to blame and unless we see blood on the floor we are accepting mediocrity..

nah mate you are right, everything is rosy and people on this board haven't been highlighting the problems for over 2 years now with Fantasia. Our coach has done a superb job to lead us to a % of 65. Top work all round, everyone should be proud of themselves.

Port Adelaide who are seen as a basketcase of a club with no future on the field and who debuted a lot of players as well lost 1 game by more than 10 goals. We lost 7. Melbourne lost 6.

[Maddog37]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

I was being serious.

It is a proven fact that the more bitching and moaning you do on a footy forum with no positive suggestions, the better your team gets.

I also think we should unseat the entire board and change the name back to Footscray.

[whythelongface]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

I was being serious.

It is a proven fact that the more bitching and moaning you do on a footy forum with no positive suggestions, the better your team gets.

I also think we should unseat the entire board and change the name back to Footscray.

I would prefer that (only because I much prefer the name), however from a strategic perspective would that be in the best interests for the club. Have we really captured the western region using the term "Western Bulldogs"? Seems to me that our marketing has been less than impressive considering our membership numbers. Anyway this is old ground and has been discussed for years. However it could be time to reignite the debate (on a separate thread).

[The Underdog]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

I would prefer that (only because I much prefer the name), however from a strategic perspective would that be in the best interests for the club. Have we really captured the western region using the term "Western Bulldogs"? Seems to me that our marketing has been less than impressive considering our membership numbers. Anyway this is old ground and has been discussed for years. However it could be time to reignite the debate (on a separate thread).

It really isn't time, at any point , on any thread.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

It really isn't time, at any point , on any thread.

Why not, a name change could be good. Having an actual identity may be good, back with the old. I am a fan of the "Western Bulldogs" but also liked "Footscray". It gives a base, an identity and a focal point in the western suburbs where we belong.....I also say lets play games again at the "Western Oval"....ah dreams.

[whythelongface]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

It really isn't time, at any point , on any thread.

Why not? Debates on any topic are good to have. Whether you agree or disagree.

[The Underdog]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

Why not? Debates on any topic are good to have. Whether you agree or disagree.

I just think it's old ground that has been gone over so often, I'm not sure there is a new argument that could be raised that would change anything.

[Topdog]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

I was being serious.

It is a proven fact that the more bitching and moaning you do on a footy forum with no positive suggestions, the better your team gets.

I also think we should unseat the entire board and change the name back to Footscray.

There have been plenty of positive suggestions but you seem far too deep in lala land to notice them.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

I was being serious.

It is a proven fact that the more bitching and moaning you do on a footy forum with no positive suggestions, the better your team gets.

Just shut down the entire board down then.

Let's just praise them for a great year instead.

[azabob]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

So Eade's assistants underneath him got blamed too!
Recruiting was fine, list management and contracts great, no problems from president or CEO.
All stems from one bloke really.

Clayton is more to blame for our current list / drafting more so than Dalrymple.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

Clayton is more to blame for our current list / drafting more so than Dalrymple.

Ahh, finally some common sense. Clayton's got away with blue murder.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

Just shut down the entire board down then.

Let's just praise them for a great year instead.

Jesus mate, getting a little stale that line.
Yes and before you reciprocate with " You're to positive " line
I've been critical of our pathetic efforts.
I just don't subscribe to the pitch fork mob mentality

[LostDoggy]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

Jesus mate, getting a little stale that line.
Yes and before you reciprocate with " You're to positive " line
I've been critical of our pathetic efforts.
I just don't subscribe to the pitch fork mob mentality

The "be patient it will happen one" is not working either. This forum are two groups, the ones that want change as we see the issues and the other is the apathetic "she be all right mate in the long run" group.

Where is the happy medium.

Do we get blood on the sword and rid us of someone, anyone to make us feel better, if so who (not looking at you Fantasia), or do we just sit back and hope for the best as we always have done.

My views are clear, Chops and I both dont sit on the fence, tell it how it is. The time for a big culture shift is now. We all want success and see it in differing formats.

Human nature says none of us will ever be happy with what we see or get but we must take a stand and make it loud and clear that we expect more. Granted our kids are young and it will come, but at what expense.

I am very concerned about our future, I dont want to be a struggling club anymore.

[jeemak]

Re: Bring Me Fantasia's Head.

Give it a rest Savage.

Just because some of us don't fly off the handle and carry a more positive outlook doesn't mean we're apathetic.

Next you'll be saying we accept mediocrity, just to round things off!

You don't tell how it is, you tell it how you see it. It's vain in the extreme to presume you know how it really is.