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  • boydogs
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 5844

    Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

    Originally posted by Topdog
    Who cares if he was on the books or not. Unless we sign a free agent the money is pointless.
    Those 2 new fitness coaches and new VFL side to develop our kids aren't pointless.

    No point paying 100% of the salary cap with a developing side, you'll only lose players once they reach their peak.
    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

    Formerly gogriff

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    • westbulldog
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2009
      • 1822

      Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

      Ward gone, Harbrow gone, Lake gone.....obviously an ideal time to recruit some more recycled duds.
      Anyone like to predict the score when we play Sydney at the SCG next year ?

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      • Topdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7471

        Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

        Originally posted by gogriff
        Those 2 new fitness coaches and new VFL side to develop our kids aren't pointless.

        No point paying 100% of the salary cap with a developing side, you'll only lose players once they reach their peak.
        surely we already we paying no where near 100%

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        • boydogs
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 5844

          Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

          Originally posted by Topdog
          surely we already we paying no where near 100%
          Just saying, money is money, assuming we don't spend Lake's salary on another player doesn't mean it is completely useless.
          If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

          Formerly gogriff

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          • westdog54
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6686

            Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

            Reading this morning's Herald Sun they're giving the impression that Brian took a fairly significant pay cut for a crack at a premiership.

            I'm assuming that means we're not paying out his current contract.

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

              Originally posted by KT31
              Does anyone actually know if or what we are paying of Brian salary next season ?
              Heard Mark Evans say Brian's got a new 2 yr deal.
              Hence why we through pick 27 their way. Contract gone

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44645

                Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                Originally posted by westdog54
                Reading this morning's Herald Sun they're giving the impression that Brian took a fairly significant pay cut for a crack at a premiership.

                I'm assuming that means we're not paying out his current contract.
                This is a very significant point. Clearly his heart wasn't in with the clubs rebuilding phase strategy which now makes the deal a bit more understandable to me.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15312

                  Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                  Originally posted by KT31
                  Does anyone actually know if or what we are paying of Brian salary next season ?
                  We are not paying one cent towards it.
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • whythelongface
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 4487

                    Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                    Originally posted by azabob
                    We are not paying one cent towards it.
                    Good news in that regard. Without going through all the posts I assume that is why the trade deal included giving the Hawks pick 27. Is that correct?

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15312

                      Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                      Originally posted by whythelongface
                      Good news in that regard. Without going through all the posts I assume that is why the trade deal included giving the Hawks pick 27. Is that correct?
                      One can only assume that is the reason.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • whythelongface
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 4487

                        Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        One can only assume that is the reason.
                        Thanks. So nothing official has come out from the club as yet in regards to the trade?

                        The more I think about the more I believe that the trade is probably a win-win for both clubs and player. Whilst we could have bargained harder there was no guarantee that the Hawks would settle for anything more for a 31 year old who probably only has two to three years (if that) of top level footy left in him.

                        It will look strange seeing Brian line up against our team next year.

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15448

                          Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          This is a very significant point. Clearly his heart wasn't in with the clubs rebuilding phase strategy which now makes the deal a bit more understandable to me.
                          From what I hear there was very little communication from coach to player in the 2nd half of the year so perhaps reading between the lines Brian felt he wasn't in our plans going forward.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                            Originally posted by whythelongface
                            The more I think about the more I believe that the trade is probably a win-win for both clubs and player. Whilst we could have bargained harder there was no guarantee that the Hawks would settle for anything more for a 31 year old who probably only has two to three years (if that) of top level footy left in him.
                            I always look at trades from the other side of the fence. If this was a Hawthorn forum we would mostly be ROFL.... They needed a full back to fill their team and we held the contract of the only probable decent trade. I normally look through rose coloured glasses but this is a stuff up for mine.

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                            • whythelongface
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4487

                              Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                              Originally posted by Superdog
                              I always look at trades from the other side of the fence. If this was a Hawthorn forum we would mostly be ROFL.... They needed a full back to fill their team and we held the contract of the only probable decent trade. I normally look through rose coloured glasses but this is a stuff up for mine.
                              Good points and given Hawthorn's premiership window it is a great trade for them. From our point of view I am looking at it from a longer term perspective. All things considered it seems like Brian probably would have moved on next year as a free agent without us receiving any compensation, thus by off-loading him this year we at least receive some trade value for him. Sure one could argue that we could have bargained harder and got better trade picks but he is turning 31 and has probably only got one or two years left in him. The fact that we have also freed up some cash under the salary cap is also a bonus. Therefore I think we have done ok out of the trade.

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                              • G-Mo77
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9876

                                Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

                                I've simmered a little since last night, still, as soon as I get to work I will be using works time to write a lengthy email to the club to voice my disapproval. I'm pretty sure I'll get a canned response or nothing at all but it will be good to get it all off my chest.

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