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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    Re: Psd

    I Love Goodes, purely on the basis that the coach Loves him, and he's 29! Fair effort. Must be pinching himself. BMac is no fool. Knows a work horse when he sees one. It's a gutsy pick.
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    • mighty_west
      Coaching Staff
      • Feb 2008
      • 3439

      Re: Psd

      Apparently the reason why Essendon didn't select this Garlett kid is because after training with the Bombers and going back home to Perth for the weekend, got completely s-faced on a 4am bender......seriously dude, really?

      What a knob.

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      • mighty_west
        Coaching Staff
        • Feb 2008
        • 3439

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          Re: Psd

          Notice a few of the teams have gone with the mentoring player role.
          We do have a truck load of younger players , will be interesting.

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          • Remi Moses
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 14785

            Re: Psd

            Originally posted by mighty_west
            Apparently the reason why Essendon didn't select this Garlett kid is because after training with the Bombers and going back home to Perth for the weekend, got completely s-faced on a 4am bender......seriously dude, really?

            What a knob.
            Staggered he'd do that. The penny has to drop soon for Dayle.

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              Re: Psd

              Originally posted by Sedat
              Agree that we have been methodical and worked to a plan in the off season. The trading of Lake was fine for where our list is at but we were far too generous to Hawthorn. We could have picked up exactly the same players in trade week and the national draft and kept pick 27, which would have netted us Tim O'Brien, and culled one extra filler on the list like Veszpremi. Otherwise I'm much happier with the balance of our list now than it was 6 weeks ago.
              I know it's a sore point but you do have to give a little to get something at trade time.
              They were never going to take his contract and give us a pick . I just see it as a win win situation.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44653

                Re: Psd

                Its a shame isn't it? Another 12 months in the WAFL and hopefully some positive influences in his life might see him as a highly sort after player in 12 months time.

                He has the talent.
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                • The Underdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6871

                  Re: Psd

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  Its a shame isn't it? Another 12 months in the WAFL and hopefully some positive influences in his life might see him as a highly sort after player in 12 months time.

                  He has the talent.
                  Would he be better off going to the SANFL or VFL to get away from other negative influences in WA? He doesn't seem mature enough for it but on the other hand it might force him to grow up a little. Particularly with a team that is AFL aligned.
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                  • whythelongface
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 4490

                    Re: Psd

                    I was surprised by the selection of Goodes. I thought we may have gone down the path of selectiing either Prismall or Bate but clearly the coaching team sees some highly desirable qualities in Goodes that can be a positive influence on the team. One of these would be his work ethic and determination to get a spot on an AFL list. These are the qualities that, no doubt, McCartney wants to instill in the team.

                    We are lacking experience, not just AFL experience, but life experience on our senior list, therefore can see the added benefit of having a person like Goodes on the list.

                    Having time to think about this selection I see it as a good move.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: Psd

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      Echo the thoughts of RT and TBB. Goodes instantly adds depths in an area crying out for it, and as rightly pointed out he has out-performed Prismall and Bate on merit on the training track. Pleasantly surprised by the selections of both Lower and Goodes, who both add far more balance to the list than Prismall and Bate would have. Also love the rookie aspect to the pick and the fierce competitive tension it will instill on the training track.

                      Surprised by the level of negativity at this selection.
                      Ummm he's 29 years of age FFS!!!

                      And he has been preferred over all 18 year old rookie candidates. Gladly, the recruiters aound the time of the pick up of Morris, Boyd and Dalhouse etc didn't pass on them for a 29 year old.

                      This selection defies belief.

                      Yes, he may get a game but he will be around for 2 years max and then he's gone. Compare that with the 12- 13 years of an 18 year old.

                      And he's fat.

                      Strange how no other Club thought of selecting a batch of 29 year olds.

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                      • The Underdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 6871

                        Re: Psd

                        Originally posted by EJ Smith
                        Ummm he's 29 years of age FFS!!!

                        And he has been preferred over all 18 year old rookie candidates. Gladly, the recruiters aound the time of the pick up of Morris, Boyd and Dalhouse etc didn't pass on them for a 29 year old.

                        This selection defies belief.

                        Yes, he may get a game but he will be around for 2 years max and then he's gone. Compare that with the 12- 13 years of an 18 year old.

                        And he's fat.

                        Strange how no other Club thought of selecting a batch of 29 year olds.
                        Maybe they didn't see the potential they saw in Boyd or Morris or Dahl in any of the kids left. Chances are the kid they would pick up would be out of the system in 1-2 years anyway. I don't think it's as big a deal as you're suggesting, plus they were never looking at a kid for the spot. The other option was 25 with dodgy knees.
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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11256

                          Re: Psd

                          Originally posted by EJ Smith
                          Ummm he's 29 years of age FFS!!!
                          Not an issue for me as he is durable, fills a list deficiency need and clearly has untapped upside despite his age (as evidenced by his work on the track in beating 4 other candidats for the last spot on the list). Life doesn't end at 30 - you only need to look at his brother to see good bloodlines in toughness and durability.
                          Originally posted by EJ Smith
                          And he has been preferred over all 18 year old rookie candidates. Gladly, the recruiters aound the time of the pick up of Morris, Boyd and Dalhouse etc didn't pass on them for a 29 year old.
                          Again, age should have no bearing on who we select in the RD if the player has beaten all-comers out on the track. How many 18-19yo straplings do we need on the list? We already have a couple of sub-20yo prospects on the rookie list and countless others on the main list. Your comparison with Morris, Boyd and Picken is not relevant as they were all mature age 21+ when selected as rookies. I have no faith in Howard becoming the running playmaker off half back that he was drafted for, so I'm very glad we have brought in some direct cover in this area of our list.
                          Originally posted by EJ Smith
                          Yes, he may get a game but he will be around for 2 years max and then he's gone. Compare that with the 12- 13 years of an 18 year old.
                          Most 18yo rookies will end up never playing an AFL game and be chopped off the list after 12 months or 2 years. For every Dahlhaus and Harbrow, there are 50 Hooper's, Prato's, Ogle's, etc.. Goodes could end up playing for 5 seasons and 100 games for all we know.
                          Originally posted by EJ Smith
                          And he's fat.
                          Was fat. By all accounts he's tearing it up on the track.

                          I agree with almost everything you post but just not in this instance. Prismall and Bate would add nothing to our list that we don't already have in spades (ie: inside ball-hunting mids and mid-sized forwards with questionable leg speed). Lower and Goodes add different skill sets to the list, and both in areas we are very deficient in. Goodes might not make it but the rationale behind his selection is sound IMO.
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                          • Bornadog
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                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66738

                            Re: Psd

                            Originally posted by The Underdog
                            . The other option was 25 with dodgy knees.
                            What about the rookies Collingwood picked up? All better than Goodes.
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                            • Bulldog4life
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 9607

                              Re: Psd

                              Originally posted by EJ Smith
                              Ummm he's 29 years of age FFS!!!

                              And he has been preferred over all 18 year old rookie candidates. Gladly, the recruiters aound the time of the pick up of Morris, Boyd and Dalhouse etc didn't pass on them for a 29 year old.

                              This selection defies belief.

                              Yes, he may get a game but he will be around for 2 years max and then he's gone. Compare that with the 12- 13 years of an 18 year old.

                              And he's fat.

                              Strange how no other Club thought of selecting a batch of 29 year olds.
                              The Crows picked up Ian Callinan last year on rookie list at 29 years old and added him to main list during the year. You have to remember E.J that Goodesy has never had a AFL preseason yet. He didn't look fat when I saw him recently on the website and according to an article he has been mighty impressive on the track. He is a bulldog now. All should support him.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 14954

                                Re: Psd

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                What about the rookies Collingwood picked up? All better than Goodes.
                                You would want us to take Hudson back?
                                Remember, he's an on field coach more than anything else - just like Goodes.

                                The difference in us becoming an on-field powerhouse and also rans is not going to be the 44th player on our overall list in 2012 who is there more to guide the kids development anyway.
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