Hrovat Appreciation Society

[Bulldog4life]

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March of the smalls. Hrovat, Caleb, Dahlhaus. Tom Boyd might be struggling to get a goal!

And not forgetting the Honey man too.

[stefoid]

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I see the Rat as playing more as a forward, but going 'inside' - into the midfield - for a portion of his time.

With Libba, Bonti, Wallis, Macrae and Dahlhaus shaping up to be our first choice mids - Hrovat to me is more a starting forward who can step in to the midfield on occasion for the longer term.

Played well on the weekend - and after somewhat of a stop/start pre-season and start to the season, he looks ready to build some good form. I'm predicting he'll have a really good run home and am expecting him to play really well after the bye.

Can he take a mark or snap a goal though? Cos Dal and McLean certainly can.

[westdog54]

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Boomer trained with the Rat to help him out a few times, also had Lachie Hunter along for one session.
Boomer gets a bad wrap for some on field antics but seems like a genuine bloke off it

I can actually second that. I work with one of Boomer's best mates. Totally different off the field.

[1eyedog]

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Boomer trained with the Rat to help him out a few times, also had Lachie Hunter along for one session.
Boomer gets a bad wrap for some on field antics but seems like a genuine bloke off it

Boomer has time for anyone off the field and always with a smile too. I've seen him mingle with people a few times, appears very genuine.

[Go_Dogs]

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Where is Nathan Hrovat at, and is he a player who could come into trade calculations for us at the end of the season?

I like Hrovat, and think he still has a significant amount of improvement in his game that we haven't seen yet. I do have some concerns about where he fits in long term with us though, as:-

1. He has had some injury concerns and they don't appear to have totally vanished;
2. He faces increasing competition in the forward-midfielder area, with Dahl in front and the emergence of McLean, Dale, Daniel, Webb, and later perhaps Hamilton, whilst Hunter and Honeychurch are also after these spots;
3. He's not overly quick;
4. His skills, composure and decision making look great one moment and poor the next;
5. He possibly lacks the size to become more a midfield first player;
6. He doesn't hit the scoreboard enough as a forward (to date).

The reason I raise this is he is perhaps the one of these blokes with the most currency at the trade table. Hunter has had his name mentioned by some on here recently, and yes, he has some work to do, but at the moment he wouldn't have much currency. He's also showed some different abilities to Hrovat (albeit not recently) with his high marking and goal kicking ability. I'd be prepared to persist with Hunter if we're confident he's working hard and applying himself as required.

Are we confident Hrovat has a spot in our side long term? If so, where and ahead of who?

Whilst Hrovat may go on to have a great career at another club, is he the one we should consider trading given our depth in the area and that we could perhaps get something pretty decent in return?

[Remi Moses]

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I still think it's early doors in Nathan's career, but his decision making worries me .
He tends not to take the 1st or 2nd option, but the third and gets caught, and panics.

[Maddog37]

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I think he needs to be stronger and fitter but I like his skill set. I would be very cautious about trading him.

[bulldogtragic]

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Unless it's a late first rounder, very eary second or a player we really want then I wouldn't consider it. But we've got too many similar types so a few need to be traded while they can.

[comrade]

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Definitely a keeper for mine.

Can spread and kick off both feet. Is also a tough little bugger.

We're spoilt by kids like Macrae & Bonti who can come in and dominate from early on. Some players do take a couple of pre-seasons, especially when injuries occur.

Rat needs a good run at it and he will show his value.

Hunter on the other hand is one of the smalls I'd be looking to off load...

[BulldogBelle]

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Mitch Wallis.

[Mantis]

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I'm not sold on him yet, has some nice attributes, but still has a long way to go... Also not sure where he fits in.

We have a pletheroa of small/ medium sized forwards on our list and we won't be able to fit them all in.. Going to be interesting to see how we manage our list over the next 4 to 16 months.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I'm not sold on him yet, has some nice attributes, but still has a long way to go... Also not sure where he fits in.

We have a pletheroa of small/ medium sized forwards on our list and we won't be able to fit them all in.. Going to be interesting to see how we manage our list over the next 4 to 16 months.

That's how I see it too.

I expected him to be much more advanced than he currently is. He hasn't been poor but I thought he'd be a fairly consistent performer. His indecisiveness is one of his biggest flaws at the moment, but as mentioned a few times, we do have quite a few small/medium sized forwards.

I like Hrovat and want to keep him, but from a list management perspective I could understand the merit of shopping him around given the emergence of players like Daniel and McLean.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Mitch Wallis.

what about him?

[Ozza]

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Definitely a keeper for me.

I don't think its altogether great logic to just be looking at our 'Best 22' and saying 'where does he fit in?' - as it is not only very early in his career - but you also very rarely have all of that best 22 available.

I think he is a good footballer with plenty of upside once he gets some continuity in his footy. Has leadership qualities, and from everything we've seen and heard is a smart and positive person to have around the place.

Things can change pretty quickly - we may have a number of small mid/forwards now, but last year we had too many inside mids and now we are probably a fraction short of that type. In the pre-season we were concerned about tall defenders - and now we have Hamling, Roberts, Talia and Roughy all filling those roles at different times.

Prefer to keep the good footballers with a future, that have bought into what we're trying to do. And I think Hrovat is one of those.

[Bornadog]

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but from a list management perspective I could understand the merit of shopping him around given the emergence of players like Daniel and McLean.

Doesn't make sense from a list management view for 2015, there are other players that should be looked at ahead of him. I would be looking at all the small players at the end of next year and see where we are at.

Our current issues are not the small types but rather the rucks and KPP in the backline.