Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    Great question. I wasn't game to ask it. I suppose we will have to wait and see.
    I actually thought Matt has improved a bit in that area. But it's for questions like this we missed you on the forums recently Sedat....a curly one.
    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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    • Raw Toast
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 982

      Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

      Originally posted by Sedat
      I'm going to ask the elephant in the room question. Will Boyd's return be a help or hindrance to the playing style and team structure from today? Our ball use was slick and skilful today - will it be as effective with Boydy getting it 40 times?
      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Great question. I wasn't game to ask it. I suppose we will have to wait and see.
      Good question, but I'm not overly concerned at the moment. For mine, Boyd's problem has been trying to do too much. If you look at a player with a fairly similar skill-set in Dane Swan (apart from initial acceleration), you'll see that Swan started excelling when he didn't try and do too much.I think that the better our midfield, the less pressure on Boyd, and that he'll play to his strengths more.

      One of the notable things today is how well we shared the ball in all three areas of the ground (perhaps a little too unselfish up forward at times), and I think Boyd will fit very nicely into that).
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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21675

        Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

        Boyd needs to show leadership in this area and be disciplined enough to use the team mates he has around him.

        If he can do that, he'll certainly add to the team.

        We need to remember our midfield isn't going to have it as easy as it had it today against many other sides. I think we should be realistic about our improved ball movement, and understand it's a work in progress.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44420

          Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

          Originally posted by Sedat
          Had a brutal couple of months at work and have basically missed the entire pre-season campaign so my modest expectations were based on last year's horrendous finish. What I saw today was very encouraging but I think we were given some extra latitude today but an opponent that was not mentally ready for a fight. Next week will be very interesting against probably the best match day coach going around whose teams rarely lack intensity for a contest let alone a match.
          I've had the same run at work and brutal describes it perfectly.

          I think we had a good run with the ball nearly all day which helped with our the goal scoring power but we have to give credit to the midfield today who kept at the task.

          Brisbane missed some very gettable goals that might have put some doubts in our mind but we were a mile better than them today. Did all the travel through the NAB cup slow them down or did we just recruit well with the likes of Lower, Stevens, Young and Goodes?
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          • The Pie Man
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2008
            • 3498

            Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

            Originally posted by Sedat
            I'm going to ask the elephant in the room question. Will Boyd's return be a help or hindrance to the playing style and team structure from today? Our ball use was slick and skilful today - will it be as effective with Boydy getting it 40 times?
            Yikes...I unintentionally riled a few Dogs fans at the the NAB Cup for a critique on his ball use....though I've always maintained that he has great penetration by foot.

            Will he better serve us across half forward? Decent overhead, and a long kick.

            Nice to know we can win the pill without him
            Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

              Originally posted by Sedat
              I'm going to ask the elephant in the room question. Will Boyd's return be a help or hindrance to the playing style and team structure from today? Our ball use was slick and skilful today - will it be as effective with Boydy getting it 40 times?
              We spoke about it at the game but I wasn't going to broach it on here. My answer is I'm looking forward to our efficient ball use the next 1-2 weeks
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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9873

                Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                Just got back.

                Good lord!

                I am still in shock, that was outstanding!!

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                • boydogs
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5842

                  Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  I'm going to ask the elephant in the room question. Will Boyd's return be a help or hindrance to the playing style and team structure from today? Our ball use was slick and skilful today - will it be as effective with Boydy getting it 40 times?
                  It might, it's not his kicking that's the problem it's that he goes for too much and doesn't know his limitations. Other players in his position may give it off or go for the safer option.

                  There will be plenty of time to tell.
                  If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                  Formerly gogriff

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                    The best player in the side and the Captain misses a game which we win and now some of you want to question his place in the side.
                    You must be on drugs.

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                    • Scraggers
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 3561

                      Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                      Best email I got today ... When We Win, You Win !! It's been a while since we got one of these.

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                      • Nuggety Back Pocket
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2064

                        Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        I've had the same run at work and brutal describes it perfectly.

                        I think we had a good run with the ball nearly all day which helped with our the goal scoring power but we have to give credit to the midfield today who kept at the task.

                        Brisbane missed some very gettable goals that might have put some doubts in our mind but we were a mile better than them today. Did all the travel through the NAB cup slow them down or did we just recruit well with the likes of Lower, Stevens, Young and Goodes?

                        A feature of the 4 debuts was their ability to dispose of the ball correctly. Our disposal last year was woeful and clubs like Hawthorn and Geelong led the way with such a strong emphasis on correct disposal. Minson was excellent in the ruck and Liberatore showed that he has the ability to become an elite midfielder. Cordy was good today in the way he was prepared to put himself in the contest. Great to see Morris and Cooney back. Finally a word of praise for BMcC who has had plenty of critics but will ultimately prove to be a good choice as coach.

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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                          Originally posted by Scraggers
                          Best email I got today ... When We Win, You Win !! It's been a while since we got one of these.
                          I got a text thanking me for attending .
                          After last years debacle it was my pleasure
                          Appreciate the message

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                          • SonofScray
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 4223

                            Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                            Originally posted by Greystache
                            We spoke about it at the game but I wasn't going to broach it on here. My answer is I'm looking forward to our efficient ball use the next 1-2 weeks
                            Similar conversations up in the heavens. One of the funnier, albeit hash comments was that Brisbane were "a man down in Boyd's absence" which while I chuckled is an extremely unfair view.

                            However, I struggled to imagine Boyd participating in today's game and things rolling along the way they did. There was a lot of care taken with the footy and participation was right up across the whole squad, I'd take that over one player racking up 45 touches and constantly driving the ball forward under pressure. Not sure if that is a knock on Boyd wholly of itself or a reflection of his team mates, either way I think the balance was right in this contest. The mix was right.

                            It doesn't really matter for me, such as todays result was so heartening but it might be worth considering: Do we belt Brisbane by even more if he is in the team? At which players' expense?

                            My answers: probably not & Smith.
                            Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                              What were people's thoughts on Voss' coaching today? He didn't seem to make the changes early to combat the bleeding. Then everytime the cameras were on him he seemed to have a sarcastic smile on his face.
                              Not saying he was the only one to blame for their performance, but a Lions supporter couldn't be happy with him today either.

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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15343

                                Re: Game Day - R1 Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions

                                Originally posted by EJ Smith
                                The best player in the side and the Captain misses a game which we win and now some of you want to question his place in the side.
                                You must be on drugs.
                                Boyd?

                                Griffen is our best player.

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