Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

[F'scary]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

Knowing this I'm surprised that Stringer was also picked ahead of Grant too... Shows where Grant is in the pecking order.

Williamstown are killing his value as trade bait by doing this. Get Gordon to sue on behalf of WB!

[GVGjr]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

I got told about what Willy planned on doing at the Richmond match a few weeks ago although was told it was less than 11. It was surprising really, especially if they cannot field their best side because of this rule they've enforced.

They can say it's a smooth relationship but realisticly it's a disappointing result and end to our affiliation with Williamstown.

I don't have a problem with the 12 player rule. Williamstown had to formalise this based on the ad-hoc way we made players available to them last season.

They have to develop their own players for next year as a stand alone club and they want to win the competition this year.

It's a shame for us but we drove them to this point.

[Bornadog]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

I don't have a problem with the 12 player rule. Williamstown had to formalise this based on the ad-hoc way we made players available to them last season.

They have to develop their own players for next year as a stand alone club and they want to win the competition this year.

It's a shame for us but we drove them to this point.

Shouldn't they also pick the best available if they want to win the VFL premiership, even if it goes above the 12 player limit.

[GVGjr]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

We need guys like Grant and Roberts to be playing senior football. This is really annoying.

I don't quite get why we are annoyed. We knew this was coming last year based on us not making so many players available.

We also played the rookie Redpath instead of Grant last week. If we need Grant to be playing in the seniors then we should have picked him.

[Bornadog]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

I don't quite get why we are annoyed. We knew this was coming last year based on us not making so many players available.

We also played the rookie Redpath instead of Grant last week. If we need Grant to be playing in the seniors then we should have picked him.

Well I am annoyed that senior listed players like Grant and Roberts are overlooked for rookies like Redpath, Jong and Austin.

[Greystache]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

I don't have a problem with the 12 player rule. Williamstown had to formalise this based on the ad-hoc way we made players available to them last season.

They have to develop their own players for next year as a stand alone club and they want to win the competition this year.

It's a shame for us but we drove them to this point.

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't this rule been in place previously? It's only the last couple of seasons that we've been able to pay more than 12 players anyway.

[GVGjr]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

Well I am annoyed that senior listed players like Grant and Roberts are overlooked for rookies like Redpath, Jong and Austin.

Which means that we could have influenced things. Williamstown is being blamed but when if you look a bit deeper we might be able to influence things a bit better.

[GVGjr]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't this rule been in place previously? It's only the last couple of seasons that we've been able to pay more than 12 players anyway.

I think when we were with Werribee we had one season with just 12 players but after that it was 13 to 14 players.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

We need guys like Grant and Roberts to be playing senior football. This is really annoying.

I find the decision on Roberts very puzzling and frustrating in particular as he looks eventually to become a key position player at AFL level. There is little point in him playing for Williamstown Reserves.

[SonofScray]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

Seems like the relationship has soured, the way the story is presented here has me thinking it is a genuine concern. I hope a player like Grant doesn't get lost in the process.

[boydogs]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

Headline is overstating this a bit IMO, that's still a fair quota and Fantasia gives Peter German a wrap for working to accommodate us

[G-Mo77]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

I don't have a problem with the 12 player rule. Williamstown had to formalise this based on the ad-hoc way we made players available to them last season.

They have to develop their own players for next year as a stand alone club and they want to win the competition this year.

It's a shame for us but we drove them to this point.

I have a problem with this from a WB perspective but understand completely why Williamstown would want to do this which is mainly because of those points you made: the split and what happened last year. It's not ideal but lets not forget it was a VFL rule a few years back about having around 11 or 12 AFL listed players per Senior VFL team.

I was told they were only going to be playing 8 WB listed players per game a few weeks ago so the news of 11 or 12 didn't really shock me that much, more relief that what I was told was off the mark.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

From our perspective it's an ordinary outcome.
I understand their perspective as well.
Find it surprising they don't play guys like Grant or Roberts!
They're better footballers than some of their listed players.
Great to have our own side

[Remi Moses]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

I have a problem with this from a WB perspective but understand completely why Williamstown would want to do this which is mainly because of those points you made: the split and what happened last year. It's not ideal but lets not forget it was a VFL rule a few years back about having around 11 or 12 AFL listed players per Senior VFL team.

I was told they were only going to be playing 8 WB listed players per game a few weeks ago so the news of 11 or 12 didn't really shock me that much, more relief that what I was told was off the mark.

That would be silly in all honesty .
They'd have a worse side on the park

[Remi Moses]

Re: Western Bulldogs left out in cold by VFL affiliate Williamstown

I don't quite get why we are annoyed. We knew this was coming last year based on us not making so many players available.

We also played the rookie Redpath instead of Grant last week. If we need Grant to be playing in the seniors then we should have picked him.

Is the issue we didn't inform Willy that we're resting players?
If they weren't , than that's understandable .
But if we informed them that we were going to. "Rest" players through the season then they shouldn't have had an issue.