Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

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  • Hotdog60
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2009
    • 5878

    Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
    Is it that we are all seeking that elusive key forward who is going to kick us over the line?
    We want to see that in Shaun, but Angus Monfries is a good comparison. That's ok.

    In his short time with the club, you could say Luke Dahlhaus has exceeded Shaun's achievements. It's a bit unfair to compare, but when Luke has it in his hands, I always think we're a chance. He has great goal sense.

    Even from straight on, I always have doubts Shaun will finish. Luke - number 1 in the league for inside 50 pressure acts. Shaun, still not able to run out an entire game - maybe injuries.

    Anyway, The coach loves Missy, and I doubt he'll be dropped. I'm guessing it will be Clay Smith for Boyd.

    Hot Dog, does Body have the speed to lock the ball inside 50? If not, I can't honestly see much of a difference in that trade of positions. But I like that you're thinking outside of the box.
    I would say he is a little bit quicker than Higgins, break even on the tackling but better endurance. I think we have enough inside mids in the centre and he can go in the centre when needed. The Captain has done some useful things around half forward in the past and I like the idea of Smith and Stevens in the side.

    Originally posted by always right
    Unfortunately Boyd is also one of the worst shots for goal in our side.
    Would it be better for him to pin point a pass to the goal umpire and miss him a metre either side or to pin point a pass out of the centre to a forward with the same result.
    Don't piss off old people
    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

      Originally posted by Hotdog60
      I would say he is a little bit quicker than Higgins, break even on the tackling but better endurance. I think we have enough inside mids in the centre and he can go in the centre when needed. The Captain has done some useful things around half forward in the past and I like the idea of Smith and Stevens in the side.
      Last week, Freo's half back line was given acreage to run the ball and time to kick out of our defensive half.

      Just not enough speed and applied pressure or blokes that can read the play, coming out of half back. If you press that high, as in 1Qtr, you need some overlap, with blokes who can put some pressure on the second kick.

      If you go with a smallish forward line, you at least need a bit of speed as a trade off. Gia, Missy, Dickson -not happening.
      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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      • always right
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 4189

        Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

        Is this the week to play Picken forward against Deledio?
        I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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        • BornInDroopSt'54
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2009
          • 5233

          Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

          Originally posted by always right
          Is this the week to play Picken forward against Deledio?
          I always connect Deledio with Griffen. If we had to stop Griffen, I would want Picken on him. Hopefully he can bag a few as well.
          Footscray Football Republic.

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          • ReLoad
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2009
            • 1457

            Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

            Was behind Boyd and Howard when they were walking up to the social club before the game, Boyd still have a very pronounced limp.

            Either one of the Freo supporters mugged him, or he is clearly not ready to return.

            I wouldn't drop either Smith or Stevens, they were far from our worst on the weekend, Smith needs a consistent run of games, he is fanatical at the footy, just need to use him correctly (i.e inside not outside)

            Stevens was great when he came on, he ran very hard and presented well.

            I have a very interesting one, with Libba coming on so well, where does cross fit in the team, im not sure how many centre bounces he took, but he certainly wasn't as prolific as previous years as our main inside clearance man.

            if i was looking at injecting some pace and spread ability, i would look at him as a potential out.

            (that is taking nothing away from his amazing endurance, the last goal he kicked was from a Herculean run which I seriously doubt anyone in our club could have matched)

            So IF Boyd was to be ready, I would probably look at Cross as the out for team balance only, not for his performance on the weekend.

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            • KT31
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jul 2008
              • 5454

              Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
              Anyway, The coach loves Missy, and I doubt he'll be dropped. I'm guessing it will be Clay Smith for Boyd.

              Hot Dog, does Body have the speed to lock the ball inside 50? If not, I can't honestly see much of a difference in that trade of positions.
              Not sure is its the coach or the remainder of the selection committee, they have an invested interest in the time they have spent on Missy.
              IMO, at this stage in his career, not the sort of player BMac would be backing.
              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                Originally posted by KT31
                Not sure is its the coach or the remainder of the selection committee, they have an invested interest in the time they have spent on Missy.
                IMO, at this stage in his career, not the sort of player BMac would be backing.
                Monty's the only assistant coach who isn't new. German and Maple have been there, but in development roles.
                [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                • KT31
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 5454

                  Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                  Originally posted by AndrewP6
                  Monty's the only assistant coach who isn't new. German and Maple have been there, but in development roles.
                  Then it comes down to bo one better on the list,
                  Missy, IMO from all expectations , has not lived up to potential and would not be the player BMac would be backing unless he had no other choice.;
                  It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                  • Missing-Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3102

                    Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                    Originally posted by KT31
                    Then it comes down to bo one better on the list,
                    Missy, IMO from all expectations , has not lived up to potential and would not be the player BMac would be backing unless he had no other choice.;
                    But he does back him. He backed him enough to give him a leadership role last year. He backed him enough to single out his pre-season in interviews. I'm starting to sense some Gia derangement syndrome all over again. Fact is Higgins was poor against Freo but at least he used the ball well when he got it and laid 6 tackles. Face it the guy will never be a superstar but he can and will most likely become a very good player in the Gia mould.

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                    • always right
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 4189

                      Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                      Originally posted by ReLoad
                      Was behind Boyd and Howard when they were walking up to the social club before the game, Boyd still have a very pronounced limp.

                      Either one of the Freo supporters mugged him, or he is clearly not ready to return.

                      I wouldn't drop either Smith or Stevens, they were far from our worst on the weekend, Smith needs a consistent run of games, he is fanatical at the footy, just need to use him correctly (i.e inside not outside)

                      Stevens was great when he came on, he ran very hard and presented well.

                      I have a very interesting one, with Libba coming on so well, where does cross fit in the team, im not sure how many centre bounces he took, but he certainly wasn't as prolific as previous years as our main inside clearance man.

                      if i was looking at injecting some pace and spread ability, i would look at him as a potential out.

                      (that is taking nothing away from his amazing endurance, the last goal he kicked was from a Herculean run which I seriously doubt anyone in our club could have matched)

                      So IF Boyd was to be ready, I would probably look at Cross as the out for team balance only, not for his performance on the weekend.
                      I'm not sure he has ever been one of our main clearance players in the middle. Certainly in recent years he has regularly come off the wing and been relied upon for his coverage up and down the ground rather than at centre bounces.
                      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                      • Bumper Bulldogs
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2952

                        Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                        My confidence in Wood in defense is low. He has some quality traits but he's often out of position and/or jumps too early in a contest whilst his man stays on the ground. To be honest, I think the perception of Wood being a good defender is on the back of that game in the wet v Adelaide a few years back when he touched up Tippet a few times, and the Collingwood game last year.

                        I'd like to see Wood moved further up the ground, although he may not have the foot skills/decision making for midfield.
                        I think the best that Wood has played was 3 to 4 years ago when he just got the ball and was used a link player he was quick but we also had Harbrow and Shaggy down back so he was playing on the 5 or 6 best forward

                        I like the idea of him up on the wing and think we should consider going back to a small mobile forward line. This would look like Higgins, Jones, Smith, Dollhouse, Murphy, Pickens. Lets get a few wins up and make the talks earn a spot. We have plenty of smalls busting for the club and should be rewarded.

                        You can only give so many walk up starts before its time to be made to earn you spot
                        BB.

                        Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15402

                          Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                          Originally posted by ReLoad
                          I wouldn't drop either Smith or Stevens, they were far from our worst on the weekend, Smith needs a consistent run of games, he is fanatical at the footy, just need to use him correctly (i.e inside not outside)
                          No doubt, but how many inside mids can we play?

                          The only way that Smith stays in is if he starts as the sub or another inside mid does... From what I saw on Saturday I'm not classifying Stevens in this category.

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                          • lemmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6515

                            Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            No doubt, but how many inside mids can we play?

                            The only way that Smith stays in is if he starts as the sub or another inside mid does... From what I saw on Saturday I'm not classifying Stevens in this category.
                            Fully agree with that call on Stevens. I'm not sure if it was just because he was fresh when he came on but he was one of the better spreaders from the contest, ran with the footy and showed some decent toe. He looks like he has another very good string to his bow and a point of difference to the majority of our mids

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                            • stefoid
                              Senior Player
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1846

                              Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                              Yeah we desperately need guys like Stevens and Higgins to help with spread and footskills.

                              Our midfield has a totally different complexion this year with Higgins and Conney fit and the inclusion of Lower and Stevens.

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6928

                                Re: Match Committee- Round 3 vs Richmond

                                Club says Boyd out for another week.

                                I'd go with nO changes other than Smith being the sub.

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