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  • The Bulldogs Bite
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11119

    #31
    Re: Paul Roos

    Great thread/discussion.

    I would be in favour of it, but I just can't see it happening. I don't think we'd be able to afford him, nor provide him with the resources he'd desire.

    I also find it hard to see us pulling a 'Freo' -- our club isn't exactly renowned for making hard, tough decisions.
    W00F!

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    • Nuggety Back Pocket
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 2064

      #32
      Re: Paul Roos

      Originally posted by lemmon
      No slight on Macca but Roos has been talked about as one of the best in recent history. The way he implemented a culture that has outlived his reign at the club, one that is imprinted on the young kids coming into the club and is carried by everyone from the Chairman to the boot-studder is something that I have ultimate respect for the man for. I have no doubt he would walk into the club and demand the respect/admiration of the playing group. Once again with all due respect to Macca, I would do the deal in a heartbeat
      Your last statement is disappointing but understandable.
      Both Roos and Leigh Matthews enjoyed great AFL concessions in coaching successful teams at Sydney and Brisbane with superior talent to work with. As has been stated previously Macca has been left with a poor list but I believe he is the genuine article and will do everything possible to bring success. The Club is well managed now with equalization being a keen ingredient to bring greater financial resources to the WB to enable it to compete with the stronger endowed clubs. We are all frustrated at the moment but the tide will eventually turn for the better. BMcC is the right person at this time in our history.

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      • Maddog37
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3132

        #33
        Re: Paul Roos

        I do not like the results of the last 20 odd games, especially the way we completely roll over at times.

        I appreciate the fact we have changed fitness staff. I like the fact we can see a clear direction in the type of people we are recruiting as players. The new coaching recruits are also a positive. A change in president is also a plus IMHO.

        I like the way the club is portraying itself in the media and it's improved communication to us, the members.

        I guess what I am saying is that the club is going very well in alot of areas and I feel that a big part of that change is the leadership provided by Macca and Peter. I want to believe that the onfield pain is as a result of taking a long term objective outlook focussing on not just building a team that wins games and maybe a flag but building a club that has the foundations to consistently produce quality players, teams and coaches. A place where every new person that comes in learns from the leaders before them and a team first, total commitment ethos is the norm. From this success will come.

        Bottom line for me is that whilst we are lagging in on field performance I will always be slightly bitter and twisted about the coach but we simply need to try a different path to what we have done previously. We have to hold our nerve and believe in Macca and his plan. Now let's hope the players feel the same way or it is all for nought.

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          #34
          Re: Paul Roos

          Things were looking up under Cheap as Chips too. Securing High draft picks, retained the onfield leadership team such as West, Grant, Smith, Johno etc, he also recruited a gun full forward, plus the additions of Koops, Streeta etc, etc. plus CaC's winning percentage is probably higher than the current coach.

          It took a proven coach to show us just how off course we were. Sometimes spending the money pays a dividend. Eade was worth it, was he not??
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66158

            #35
            Re: Paul Roos

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            Things were looking up under Cheap as Chips too. Securing High draft picks, retained the onfild leadership team, also recruiting a gun full forward, plus the additions of Koops, Streeta etc, etc. plus CaC's winning percentage is probably higher than the current coach.

            It took a proven coach to show us just how off course we were. Sometimes spending the money pays a dividend. Eade was worth it, was he not??
            The one thing I will say is you can't win games with 15 players with less than 50 games under their belt. Macca is really up against it and I bet my bottom dollar that no coach can win with that little experience in the team, no matter who they are.
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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              #36
              Re: Paul Roos

              Originally posted by bornadog
              The one thing I will say is you can't win games with 15 players with less than 50 games under their belt. Macca is really up against it and I bet my bottom dollar that no coach can win with that little experience in the team, no matter who they are.
              Fair point. But sill...
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Remi Moses
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 14785

                #37
                Re: Paul Roos

                Originally posted by Throughandthrough
                I wonder how many wins our coach told the board he expected this year. Wouldn't be 2 or 3.
                Don't think they would have had that conversation.
                Peter Gordon's speech pre season resonates with me as each week goes by.
                The club would be short sighted to end his tenure now and look like Richmond of the 80's.
                By all means in 12 months time if there is no improvement The coach deserves the rounds of the kitchen sink. Pretty sure there will be supporters lining up with baseball bats.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  #38
                  Re: Paul Roos

                  Originally posted by Remi Moses
                  Don't think they would have had that conversation.
                  Peter Gordon's speech pre season resonates with me as each week goes by.
                  The club would be short sighted to end his tenure now and look like Richmond of the 80's.
                  By all means in 12 months time if there is no improvement The coach deserves the rounds of the kitchen sink. Pretty sure there will be supporters lining up with baseball bats.
                  Didn't Richmond win a premiership in the 80's?
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • Greystache
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9775

                    #39
                    Re: Paul Roos

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Didn't Richmond win a premiership in the 80's?
                    The won a premiership in 1980, and the wooden spoon in 1987 and 1989.
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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      #40
                      Re: Paul Roos

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      The won a premiership in 1980, and the wooden spoon in 1987 and 1989.
                      I'd take an infinite number of spoons for a cup. I can't believe I'm this far in life and never experienced that feeling. It's that burn which drives my thinking when considering sticking to the same old path or he'd hunting someone who has been there, done that.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Remi Moses
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14785

                        #41
                        Re: Paul Roos

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Didn't Richmond win a premiership in the 80's?
                        After their flag they sacked Tony Jewell 12 months later.

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                        • Greystache
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9775

                          #42
                          Re: Paul Roos

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          I'd take an infinite number of spoons for a cup. I can't believe I'm this far in life and never experienced that feeling. It's that burn which drives my thinking when considering sticking to the same old path or he'd hunting someone who has been there, done that.
                          As would I, but Richmond were a rabble through the mid-to-late 80's and haven't really recovered. They focused heavily on the short term and turned over everyone who didn't return immediate success. They were an example of how to run a club into the ground.
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                          • westdog54
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6686

                            #43
                            Re: Paul Roos

                            Originally posted by Greystache
                            The won a premiership in 1980, and the wooden spoon in 1987 and 1989.
                            And when you consider how we were travelling in 89, they must have been trying really hard for that spoon to end up below us.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              #44
                              Re: Paul Roos

                              Just for a thought, question what Paul Roos would have done today. Selection as well as positioning.

                              Maybe different, maybe the same. I'd like to think different.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44327

                                #45
                                Re: Paul Roos

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                Just for a thought, question what Paul Roos would have done today. Selection as well as positioning.

                                Maybe different, maybe the same. I'd like to think different.
                                I think the match day exploits aren't as significant as the preparation of the playing group and tactics leading into match day.

                                Roos would be as good as anyone at preparing a side and I think that is his great strength.
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