Our Defense - a major problem

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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14953

    #31
    Re: Our Defense - a major problem

    Originally posted by Greystache
    It'd also be nice to have a tall player to kick the ball to who can take a mark. Jones is the only one we have (other than Markovic at a stretch) and Jones is who the next kick needs to go to.
    Minson & Jones to spread, one JJ/Griffen/Cooney at the fall for each?

    I'll go predictable 90% of the time if it's remotely effective, with a clever type to snag a few shorter kick ins. The current situation doesn't work against the real disciplined teams (thinking back to the Freo game, they were extremely well set up at almost all times).
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • stefoid
      Senior Player
      • Dec 2009
      • 1846

      #32
      Re: Our Defense - a major problem

      Theoretically we have Williams and Wood available for defensive duties.. one day.

      Club was pretty smart picking up Young and Goodes - benefits of a list manager I guess.

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14953

        #33
        Re: Our Defense - a major problem

        Originally posted by stefoid
        Club was pretty smart picking up Young and Goodes - benefits of a list manager I guess.
        I was very wrong about the Young pick up - it's looking like a bargain at this stage.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15314

          #34
          Re: Our Defense - a major problem

          OK, so it looks like Roughead is established as a key building block for our back six.

          Have either of Michael Talia or Fletcher Roberts shown enough potential to be the second key back, to be Jordan Rougheads partner in crime (so to speak)?

          I was disappointed to see Roberts dropped after a poor game forward, in my view he had not done too much wrong when he played in defence.

          Clearly the coaches think both players have key areas to work on.

          I tend to think Talia's issue is he needs to work on is his one-on-one defensive work and with Roberts is he quick enough or strong enough to hold down a key post?

          What are other posters views?, do we need to draft other key defenders or are we happy enough to see what Roberts and Talia can offer and build on over the coming year or so.

          Keeping in mind we have other pressing list management issues also, such as outside run and effective disposal and also a key forward would not go astray.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • Scorlibo
            Coaching Staff
            • Oct 2007
            • 3087

            #35
            Re: Our Defense - a major problem

            Originally posted by azabob
            OK, so it looks like Roughead is established as a key building block for our back six.

            Have either of Michael Talia or Fletcher Roberts shown enough potential to be the second key back, to be Jordan Rougheads partner in crime (so to speak)?

            I was disappointed to see Roberts dropped after a poor game forward, in my view he had not done too much wrong when he played in defence.

            Clearly the coaches think both players have key areas to work on.

            I tend to think Talia's issue is he needs to work on is his one-on-one defensive work and with Roberts is he quick enough or strong enough to hold down a key post?

            What are other posters views?, do we need to draft other key defenders or are we happy enough to see what Roberts and Talia can offer and build on over the coming year or so.

            Keeping in mind we have other pressing list management issues also, such as outside run and effective disposal and also a key forward would not go astray.
            I liked the glimpses we saw from Roberts, and like you found it surprising that he was dropped. It does just seem to be a case of Dale coming back and stealing his place in the side. I would be happy for Dale to play small if it means we can develop Roberts in the seniors.
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            • Webby
              WOOF Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 1880

              #36
              Re: Our Defense - a major problem

              I liked the look of Talia a year or two ago, but now I prefer Roberts. He's impressed me. Both those blokes need to work their backsides off this coming pre season. They need extra speed, size and strength. Talia needs work in his kicking, too.

              If ever those two blokes were to cancel their Chrissy holidays and get to work, this is the one. They could both have good careers if they really want it. I see them together out and about. They seem good mates. It'd be good if they could really eyeball each other and push themselves in the gym and on the track this spring & summer.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66726

                #37
                Re: Our Defense - a major problem

                Roberts really needs to add some strength to his skinny frame, but I think he can hold down CHB in years to come. For now he is ok to prove himself in the VFL. Talia will come good, he has shown signs and is still very young.
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                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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